Gold Fever

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Marshall, Jun 7, 2010.

  1. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    This is what is left of my Gold Fever days of 1999. I sold a Double Eagle, A Liberty Commemorative containing a $5 Liberty and a low grade eagle earlier to finance copper purchases. You've already commented on the Charlotte Quarter Eagles. Now here's the rest.

    I would love comments on which of these, if any, you think will command a numismatic premium above bullion. Grading assistance would be appreciated. I'll let you know what grade they were marked with afterward because I don't agree with most. Of course, grading gold is NOT my forte.

    I am also surprised non of these were harmed by the soft flips they were sent to me in. I guess everyone used gold to get rid of their inventory of PVC laden flips. I was foolish and lucky since i just now removed them to cotton lined envelopes usually reserved for early coppers.

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    Indian Eagle No Motto

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    THAT'S ALL FOLKS!
     
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  3. Magman

    Magman U.S. Money Collector

    I think they'd all sell for some premium over bullion.
    After all, my liberty quarter eagle, with a hole in it, I had to pay a premium on (granted, it was about 15$ over, but still).

    but I believe your Indian will command the least amount, perhaps very little.
     
  4. Your 1908 Eagle looks polished to me, especially the obverse.

    Maybe they are supposed to look like that, I cannot afford gold and likely never will, so I have not been spending much time studying them.

    The 1892 and 1906 look the nicest to me :)
     
  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    1907-D $5 - VF details damaged, scratched

    1882 $10 - VF35 detail, possible damage, what looks like a file mark above the 1st S

    1892 $10 XF40

    1901-O $10 over-graded, should be AU 55

    1906-S $10 VF details, damaged ex-jewelry

    1908-D $10 VF details, damaged, polished

    I doubt there will be any premium worth notice.

    A couple of comments, pretty much all dealers ship their coins in PVC flips and still do today. They do this for a couple of reasons - 1 they are much cheaper, 2 - there is less possibility of damage from the flips; the non PVC flips can easily scratch the coins when they are put into or removed from the flips

    You mention cotton lined envelopes for storage, bad idea. The cotton will hairline the coins. Now you may not think that is a big deal on circ coins, but more hairlines will only make them worse than they were to begin with.
     
  6. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    I edited this to include a better picture of the Half Eagle. I'm not sure why the image was so much smaller.

    By the way, the line above the head is not a shadow. I believe it's raised and from a prior strike at about 140 degrees at a distance of about 1 mm. There is some evidence elsewhere as well.

    I just spotted this for informational purposes from Heritage:

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    The scratch appears to be on the DIE, not post mint and the prior strike now appears to be on the die as well though it shows in the left field rather than above as on mine though the distance and angle are the same.

    This is a link for better close-ups.

    http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=90073&Lot_No=93024

    Scratch that. The scratches are different.
     
  7. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    That is my opinion as well, though I think the obverse received the most "attention."
     
  8. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    Thanks for the input. I like a critical eye more than the softies at the TPGs. There is a definite bias there of giving the customers what they want and thus the inflation of grades (especially for keys) and soft standards for things like FS, FT and FB. Perhaps the economy's downturn will result in returning to some of those older standards.
     
  9. charlottedude

    charlottedude Novice Collector

    Wow, that is a huge difference between the first pic and last of the 1907-D $5 in the slab. They look nothing like the same coin. I would've guessed VF-30/cleaned from the first image. The second image looks like a nice MS62 coin... I would be willing to offer it a sticker at '62.

    For the remainder:

    1882 $10 - AU detail/cleaned
    1892 $10 - AU-50 easy
    1901-O $10 - Agree with NGC grade of MS-61 Many New Orleans $10s went straight into bags and were shipped over to Europe. This is a primary reason why so many are available in lower MS grades. What may appear as light wear is actually bag friction from jostling around during the journey overseas. This coin looks like such an example.
    1906-S $10 - VF-25 / cleaned
    1908-D $10 - VF-35 / polished and/or harshly cleaned

    regards,

    Charlottedude
     
  10. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    That's because they are not the same coin.
     
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  12. charlottedude

    charlottedude Novice Collector

    That's because they are not the same coin.

    That's good, because they look like two completely different coins. Marshall's second photo of an '07-D and comments I edited this to include a better picture of the Half Eagle. I'm not sure why the image was so much smaller., and the diagonal scratch on Liberty's cheek on both coins led me to believe that perhaps they were photos of the same coin, albeit under completely disparate lighting conditions.

    c'dude
     
  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Marshall edited his first picture, as he said. Then he said this - "I just spotted this for informational purposes from Heritage:"

    That's when he posted the pic of the slabbed coin with the CAC sticker - that is the Heritage pic.
     
  14. charlottedude

    charlottedude Novice Collector

    I realize the 2nd image of the'07-D was an edited photo, but was unaware from which photo it was edited. My initial thought was that perhaps he purchased the coin from Heritage, and then imaged the coin himself and posted his image first, then the Heritage pic later "to include a better picture of the half eagle".

    c'dude
     
  15. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    Sorry for the confusion. I was looking for a second coin to confirm a die scratch rather than Post Mint Damage. I thought I had found it and discovered it was different as I was posting.
     
  16. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    I'm going to repost them all.

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