Would you report this as counterfeit ?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by kangayou, May 30, 2010.

  1. jloring

    jloring Senior Citizen

    And not only the 28 he now has for sale, the few hundred he has already sold. I took a look at his feedback for the past year... one buyer even went so far as to buy 18 of these buckles. Probably 25% of the feedback comments acknowledged the coin was counterfeit, but posted positive anyway (because they were buying a buckle, not just a coin). Seems like this guy has found a goldmine... buy a few hunderd unmarked replicas fron jinghausei at $2 each (free shipping), some cheap belt buckles, marry them together, and presto... an easy $100.
     
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  3. Mad.Outcast

    Mad.Outcast New Member

    For him to even be in possession of these coins, is a crime in itself.let alone sell them.
     
  4. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    No.
    Just read the listing is all I am saying
     
  5. jloring

    jloring Senior Citizen

    Well, the mere possession of counterfeit coins still hasn't been proven to be illegal:

    Though the legalities regarding ownership of bogus coins aren't completely clear, there's nothing in the statutory or case law in the U.S. that indicates simple possession is illegal. Two areas of U.S. statuatory law deal with counterfeit coins. Title 18, Part I, Chapter 25.....

    Read it all here:

    http://rg.ancients.info/guide/counterfeits.html
     
  6. Mad.Outcast

    Mad.Outcast New Member


    :hatch:
     
  7. kangayou

    kangayou Junior Member

    I see the item/s has/have been removed.
     
  8. Mad.Outcast

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  9. Mad.Outcast

    Mad.Outcast New Member

    I could almost guarantee,if the coin was marked "copy" they would not sell
     
  10. kangayou

    kangayou Junior Member

    I guess I was wrong since there are still 23 coin items active.

    US Trade Dollar 1877 Coin

    Liberty Seated Dollar 1873 Coin

    U.S. Bust Dollar 1802 Coin

    U.S. Bust Dollar 1799 Coin

    US 1836 Gobrech Dollar Coin

    Bust Dollar 1798 Coin

    If these coins ( if genuine ) were not so extremely valuable , I wouldn't have such a problem with the "copy" stamp missing. But these are uncirculated GOOD replicas of some of the USA's coins.
     
  11. jloring

    jloring Senior Citizen

    Apparently eBay is removing these items as they are being reported.
     
  12. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Looks like the guy has found a nice way around the rules.
    Make the coin part of something else and play dumb.
    If enough folks report his auctions, maybe it will slow him down a bit.
     
  13. panda

    panda Junior Member

    so i just found this 1801 bust dollar....

    anyone want to buy it? i think $300 is fare....:rolling:
     
  14. kangayou

    kangayou Junior Member

    This type of situation really gets me to thinking that there should be a low cost means of authentication. Some folks may not be able to afford the price to have a coin professionally conserved or graded. What alternatives are currently available to them , within the numismatic community ?
     
  15. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    The coins are listed for auction as coins.there listed in belt buckles & men apparel not as' US Coin'.


    why is everyone bad:hammer: mouthing the seller.I sure you would not want this to happen too U:kewl:Mad
     
  16. silvermonger

    silvermonger Member

    Report it? To whom? Do you think ebay would care? ebay doesnt even care when the most blatant and obvious ripoffs are being done. Why would they care about something as trivial as these?
     
  17. jloring

    jloring Senior Citizen

    So Jello... you're OK with these auctions? Apparently eBay isn't, as they pulled the reported ones. You understand this is a veiled attempt at passing umarked replicas, don't you? Specifying the date and type of coin in the title of the listing, showing the coin sans the buckle, showing the edge lettering... and you're telling me the guy is just selling belt buckles?
     
  18. jloring

    jloring Senior Citizen

    You must not read very well... the auctions that were reported (to eBay) were, in fact, pulled.
     
  19. Mad.Outcast

    Mad.Outcast New Member


    are you kidding? this is a clear intent to sell fake coins.

    if the belt buckles were sold for 30$ I could see less intent.

    why are you defending these actions.
     
  20. silvermonger

    silvermonger Member

  21. jloring

    jloring Senior Citizen

    And apparently alot of people are. One thing they aren't doing, and that is buying belt buckles. If you think they are, you must live in a fantasy world. Maybe they think there's a possibility the coin is genuine... or maybe they think this is the only way to obtain an unmarked replica. Remember, our Chinese friends always show the copy (or replica) stamp on their auction page... but when you receive the coin, it is stamp free.... and good enough to fool some dealers (see Susan Headley's article in Coin World).
     
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