SOMMER ILANDS coin

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by boberbao, May 25, 2010.

  1. boberbao

    boberbao Junior Member

    hi,I am a coin collector from China,i saw a strange gold coin"sommer ilands XII",could you help me to evaluate it?thanks.24mm,5.3g
     

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  3. hontonai

    hontonai Registered Contrarian

    You may have a 1616 brass shilling issued by the Sommer Islands Company in the British Crown Colony of Bermuda. Scroll to the bottom of this page to read about "Hogge Money".

    Listed as KM#5 in the Standard Catalog of World Coins, if genuine it should weigh 5.68g and be relatively thin. In the 1999 2d Edition of the catalog it was valued at G - $2,000, VG - $4,000, and F - $6,500; with no values placed on higher grades, implying that they were not known to exist.

    Frankly, the condition alone led me to believe that yours is a replica/copy simply because it is too good to be true. Then I compared the size and weight, which are both off. 24mm would be a correct diameter for a 6 pence, but the shilling (12 pence) is about 30mm; and there is nowhere near enough wear displayed to account for a drop of ~.3g.

    There is another version, with the same physical specifications, and larger sails on the ship (KM#6), which is extremely rare - only 3 known to exist - valued in the catalog at G - $4,000 and VG - $6,500.
     
  4. SilverSurfer

    SilverSurfer Whack Job

    It's a phony. See stars on top of obverse and bottom, on your coin they are like flowers. See boat on reverse with ship flat side and cross on ship, on your coin no cross and round windows along the whole way. Plus, as was stated, weight is only 93% of the real one. That's a 7% loss of weight for a coin with little to no wear. Sorry.
     
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  7. rebecca herring

    rebecca herring New Member

    i have one that has stars between the words and its a copper color but not shiny and it has the pebble between the front and back legs of the pig. is it real?
     
  8. l.cutler

    l.cutler Member

    You'll need to post some pics to say, but any of these coins are extremely rare while copies are very common.
     
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