How much damage does it take for a coin to get bodybagged?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by mstng02gt, May 19, 2010.

  1. mstng02gt

    mstng02gt Junior Member

    Does anyone know how much damage it takes for a coin to get bodybagged and how much is acceptable? Here is an example of a nice looking uncirculated barber, but has a ding in it. Is this bad enough to get the coin bodybagged? I see many things like this and it always makes me a bit nervous about forking over the money for grading fees. any imput is appreciated.

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    mstng02gt, May 19, 2010
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  3. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    IMO - that would not stop the coin from being graded.

    But show the full coin, both sides. It may or may not be worth being graded.
     
    GDJMSP, May 19, 2010
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  4. mstng02gt

    mstng02gt Junior Member

    This one isn't mine I was just asking for educational purposes. I see all the time little hits like that and am always wondering if that damage is enough to be bodybagged. Sadly it was a small pic I found searching the web so I can't get any better pics. But it looked like the perfect example of the question I wanted to ask.


    Also thank you very much for sharing your vast knowledge with us GDJMSP I think you are always first in line to help any time I have a question. Many thanks and respect for everything!
     
    mstng02gt, May 19, 2010
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  5. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    You might get it back Detail Graded rather than body bagged. That way they aren't guaranteeing a value for an assigned grade.
     
    Marshall, May 20, 2010
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  6. Duncan

    Duncan Numismatist

    lowers the grade by alot
     
    Duncan, May 20, 2010
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  7. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    How much damage is enough to make ungradeable is subjective. That is because it depends - where is the damage located ? Is it in a prime focal area ? Is it somewhat hidden in the coin's details ? What coin is it ? A dime for example, since it is such a small coin, might be bagged because of the size of the mark, whereas a half dollar or larger coin with a mark of the exact same size would be graded. More leniency is given to larger coins than smaller coins.

    And then you also have to ask what is the nature of the damage ? A scratch for example can be considered less damaging than a gouge. A rim ding of suficient size can be considered worse than a gouge - and so on.

    So it depends on many things for each individual coin. And there are no set rules or definitions. A coin's being ungradeable because of damage is based on years of experience and the grader having looked at hundreds of thousands, maybe millions, of coins.
     
    GDJMSP, May 20, 2010
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  8. Lugia

    Lugia ye olde UScoin enthusiast

    also how rare it maybe. when looking at EAC and corresponding coins even ones with noticeable problems they may get an actual grade anyway where anything modern with the same problem would instantly get a net grade or bodybag. that type of mark on an old copper wouldnt stop it from getting graded but i dont have experience with barber pieces.
     
    Lugia, May 20, 2010
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  9. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    Looks like it would still get a decent grade!
     
    mpcusa, May 20, 2010
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