Someone copying my coin to sell on Ebay????

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Debwests, May 1, 2010.

  1. Debwests

    Debwests Junior Member

    You're right about underestimating a con, so Ebay will handle it now. I have never experienced this before. So I guess even if i asked the seller a question at least he knows I'm aware of what he is doing.
     
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  3. Debwests

    Debwests Junior Member

    This is the response I just got from the seller:

    "Yes sir if u would like i could send u a better picture of the coin i have...do u have an email address??"

    OMG...What a scammer! No way is he getting my email address!
     
  4. Ltrain

    Ltrain New Member

    Make a new one. It takes literally 2 minutes.

    Also, you can't really scam someone just by using their email...

    EDIT: Here, just tell him this is your email. Anton_Pushkarev@yahoo.com
     
  5. FlintHills

    FlintHills Junior Member

    I’m with mad.outcast on this one. I don’t think he is trying to scam anyone.

    According to his feedback, he has only sold one item and bought a couple of dozen things in the last 8-9 months.

    My guess is that he recently took up Brazilian Jiu Jitsu (look at what he is buying) and is selling some of his stuff to finance his new hobby.

    Maybe he dosen’t have a camera or maybe it was easier to cut and paste some photos from the web. Who knows, but I don’t think this fellow meets the profile of a scammer.
     
  6. Debwests

    Debwests Junior Member

    I believe it to be a scam as what he is selling is not the item the winning bidder will get. It's a misleading listing for a coin that he does not own, and he should state on his listing that the coin shown is not the coin they will get. Bidders will think that is the coin they will get, unless they ask otherwise. He has also "borrowed" another picture from a website "Ioffer.com" for a 1970-s Jefferson nickel. There again is the exact picture on his listing that is listed on Ioffer.com.http://www.ioffer.com/i/1970-S-JEFFERSON-NICKEL-NICKLES-5-CENT-PIECE-PIECES-BU-136401549

    And here is the sellers Ebay listing (same coin)

    http://cgi.ebay.com/1970-S-JEFFERSO...em&pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item414f0ca28d
     
  7. Ltrain

    Ltrain New Member

    QFT. Did you report the other auction?
     
  8. Debwests

    Debwests Junior Member

    No, I think you have to be the owner of the picture to report it.
     
  9. Ltrain

    Ltrain New Member

    Still worth a shot...
     
  10. Debwests

    Debwests Junior Member

    I did report him under the same report as mine as "Fraudulently or improperly described currency‏".
     
  11. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    You guys are way over the top on this.
    He is trying to sell a $2 coin and he found an image to sell it.
    It's listed as VG and the image is so small you can't tell anything.
    It's not listed as a small date. Look at his listings of what he is selling.
    Look at his feedback. The guy is just lazy on what he uses for images.
     
  12. declanwmagee

    declanwmagee Junior Member

    I had a chap do this with one of my photos recently. I didn't get nasty with him - I just contacted him, didn't let on that I knew it was my coin, asked him if that was the exact coin I'd get, and he was honest with me, told me it was a stock photo and that he didn't have a camera.

    I suggested using a scanner (the photo he pinched from me was a scan, as it goes!), and he was delighted - he had a scanner and had never thought of that. Now I see him regularly on eBay and he seems to be going great guns, and he still doesn't need to know it was the owner of the coin that made the suggestion. We all made mistakes at the beginning. Be gentle.

    Declan
     
  13. hontonai

    hontonai Registered Contrarian

    So in your world laziness excuses lying? Glad I don't live there.
     
  14. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    You absolutely must be the owner of the picture to report it as stolen. How else could you have non-hearsay evidence that the owner did or did not give the user permission to use the photo. The only exception is if the seller stole the photo from a public domain (US Mint, Coppercoins.com, etc.) because the seller is required be eBay to show a picture of the coin he is selling. Stock or similar photos are not permitted.

    BTW, this guy has violated a federal law and 2 eBay regs. Why shouldn't he be reported?
     
  15. Debwests

    Debwests Junior Member

    Exactly, thank you.
     
  16. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Hell. Just hang him over the $2.00.
     
  17. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    If I said what I would like to say to you right now I would probably get a warning for it. Your post is insulting at the least. I'll send you a PM.
     
  18. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Oh, no! Ltrain, here we go again!:D

    What is the average number of eBay scams that take place on a daily basis. Does anyone know?

    Chris
     
  19. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    You are not going for capital punishment. You are giving him a slap on the wrist. He is breaking the law and needs to learn. Would you prefer to wait until it is a serious crime?
     
  20. Ltrain

    Ltrain New Member

    Why hang him? Just shoot him and bill his family for the cost of the bullet a la The Peoples Republic of China.

    :thumb:
     
  21. mralexanderb

    mralexanderb Coin Collector

    He's just lazy and used a good photo that I hope represents his coin closely. He's new to ebay and probably doesn't own a camera. He should be reported and made to take down that listing because it is breaking the laws. If he wants to be successful selling & buying on ebay he should have to do it honestly and with integrity. I think he'll learn from this episode and maybe cause him to play it straight with customers in the future.

    Bruce
     
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