A Tale of 2 Francs

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by ColonialCoinsUK, Nov 17, 2022.

  1. ColonialCoinsUK

    ColonialCoinsUK Well-Known Member

    As a long time collector of Napoleonic Coins the 1807A African Head 2 Franc piece is one of the key coins. Below are two examples - one graded by PCGS and one graded by NGC - anyone want to guess the grades??

    1807A-2F-PCGS.jpg 1807A-2F-NGC.jpg
     
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  3. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Well, the PCGS one I'd wager VF details, cleaned or polished in a way that is unattractive and I would avoid it, key date or not.

    The NGC coin looks like a high EF, and distinctly more attractive. I don't see luster on this coin, which is why I avoided the AU.
     
  4. H8_modern

    H8_modern Attracted to small round-ish art

    I found the first one but don’t want to ruin the game. I will say that I disagree with PCGS.
     
  5. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Not knowing the series to well I would go
    XF 40 details.
    And the last one XF45 at best, it's a much more acceptable coin.
     
  6. H8_modern

    H8_modern Attracted to small round-ish art

    Not sure why there isn’t much of a response here but maybe a half reveal will create some momentum. The top one is straight graded AU53 and for sale at over $11,000 which is nuts. I wouldn’t have posted this but there hasn’t been any action since Thursday.
     
  7. ColonialCoinsUK

    ColonialCoinsUK Well-Known Member

    Yes, @H8_modern the PCGS is AU53 - I would probably have given it XF details!

    The NGC one is my coin and AU55 and I didn't pay anywhere near that. Plenty of lustre but just a simple scan - I must really learn how to do coin photography properly :D
     
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  8. Gallienus

    Gallienus coinsandhistory.com Supporter

    Nice coins. I've never owned any of the earlier 2 francs: they're normally quite scarce. I have had quite my share of the 5 francs: from Napoleon I, III, and IV.

    I'll go with VF20 on the 1st coin and
    EF40 on the 2nd piece shown.
     
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  10. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    The top one is a problem free AU-53? No way. Not a chance.

    Be very careful when buying foreign coins in PCGS slabs, is all I'll say.
     
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