GTG Olathe (NY Bank) hoard Treasury bag 1885p morgan

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GTG 1885 P

  1. MS61

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  2. MS62

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  3. MS63

    9 vote(s)
    69.2%
  4. MS64

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    23.1%
  5. MS65

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  6. MS66

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  1. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    Ok This one made my night, was the only one of the 3 auctions I wanted that I won.. Under list price so I'm happy lol but I got a pretty one this time :D a nice 85p to go with my 85o... It's nice having morgans to shop for again, even if I still haven't found a 92 I'm happy with for the date set...
    Add in it's another "hoard" I now have a piece of for my hoard collection lol
    anyhoo.. putting up the pole so you can make your guesses :D
    here are the sellers and NGCs pics (NGC dark pics as usual)
    1885p.png 1885pr.png 1885p.jpg 1885pr.jpg
     
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  3. ddddd

    ddddd Member

  4. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

  5. toned_morgan

    toned_morgan Toning Lover

    I would say 63 but I'm gonna believe in this coin and say it got a 64!
     
  6. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

  7. ifthevamzarockin

    ifthevamzarockin Well-Known Member

    I would give it a 63 but I think NGC may have given it a 64
     
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  8. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Same here. I see a ms63. But NGC gave it a 64 because of how frosty the coin is.
     
  9. u4ia

    u4ia Member

    i'm thinking 63, though i've seen similar in 4 and 5 holders.
     
  10. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

  11. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Could it be Prooflike, with poor lighting covering up that fact? I am gonna change my call to 63 PL. I see cameo in the surfaces.
     
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  12. Vertigo

    Vertigo Did someone say bust?

    I have one of these somewhere with a green bean! Different year though
     
  13. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    MS-65....fields look clean, except obverse left. But others here are far better at grading Morgans than I am.
     
  14. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    a little early but since most of you hit it right on the head I guess I should reveal.. and while I won't know until it's in hand, the NGC pics do make it look more then a lil PL while the sellers pics show it frosty as can be... Will post "proper" pics once she's in hand :D
    1885pf.jpg 1885prf.jpg
     
  15. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    From that picture, your pocket was picked. That coin is PL.
     
  16. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    hehe I think you mean I picked the sellers pocket.. and yeah I'm leaning towards PL but I got her for under list (List being 100 in 63) but you ad PL and she still not an overly expensive date (150ish with pl) I might have found nicer coin but not for the price i paid and not with the hoard pedigree so I'm quite happy with her hehe :D
     
  17. Vertigo

    Vertigo Did someone say bust?

    I really think the left obverse field is what killed it. It is a 63 like this. They carefully removed these from that SDB. I think they sat the boxes down and took the coins out one by one to avoid marking them anymore. There is an article online i found somewhere one time about it. The family didn't disclose who they were or who owned this hoard. Here is my 1887 P MS64 CAC from this hoard. I won mine for about 60 something a couple years ago on ebay auction. I sent it to JA for its bean.
    20221111_184800.jpg Screenshot_20221111-185229_Gallery.jpg Screenshot_20221111-185235_Gallery.jpg
     
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  18. Vertigo

    Vertigo Did someone say bust?

    Theres an article on coin world. I just searched it out. I would post a link but people scared to click them
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  19. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    After a bit more reading and searching myself I have found the the Olathe hoard is not the New York Bank hoard, but rather the Kansas Bank Hoard, which consisted of 25 sealed 1k treasury bags or 25000 morgans and peace dollars in total. that's what I've assembled from bit and piece like this at ngc-apmex and other sites (google not very helpful here lol)
    apmex says...

    25 sealed bags of silver dollars where found at a bank in olathe Kansas in 2009, the bank kept them in reserve to cover deposits as required by law but prefered to keep real silver instead of cash.
     
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  20. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    NY Bank Hoard was a Manhattan resident who stored them at a local bank, right ?

    I think those have their own label, too.
     
  21. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    I was at 63 before I saw the reveal. Nice and frosty but too much left field and cheek chatter for higher. The reverse is beautiful though
     
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