Does anyone know how long it takes NGC administrators to approve coins in PCGS holders that are submitted to the NGC registry? Yesterday, I joined the type set registry and at the moment only the coins slabbed by NGC are being shown. Another question is what is the procedure when you are informed that the slab # that you submit is already registered to someone?
It should take no more than 1 or 2 business days to add the PCGS coins. I can't remember the exact procedure for when the # is already registered, but they usually contact the person, who then realizes they forgot to delete it from their inventory. Only one time have I had to send pictures showing the coin in my possession, which immediately solved any uncertainty about who owned the coin.
For registering a PCGS coin in the NGC registry, I’m not sure that NGC checks whether the coin is already in the PCGS registry ... probably not. Theoretically, two different persons could have the same coin in registries … one in PCGS, one in NGC. If the coin is already in the NGC registry, from the NGC website: https://www.ngccoin.com/about/help-center-faqs/ngc-registry/ngc-registry-faqs/ What happens if I register a coin that is already registered to another member? When a coin entered in the NGC Registry is already registered to another member, an email is automatically sent to the member who originally registered the coin to request that they release it from their set. The entry remains pending until the original member either confirms or denies the release. If the original member does not respond within three business days, the coin will automatically be registered to the new member and an email will be sent to both parties confirming the transfer. Cal
Adam, Cal and Paddyman, Thank you very much, your insights and information are very helpful. I suspect that my LCS submitted the coin in question and forgot to release it. Cheers, Paul
Usually, it's only day or two. If a weekend gets involved, those weekend days will not count. If you try to submit a coin that is in someone else's collection, it can take longer. The "good" reason for that is that they sold the coin, but failed to take it down from their registry set. The "bad" reason is that they got a slab serial number from somewhere and are pumping their standings unfairly. Those people get expelled from the registry. I think that those who post pictures of their coins should get more points, but that is a minority view. As long you don't get caught, you can make bogus postings.
Ive had quite a few coins show up as being owned by someone else. They notify the other party and if they don't hear back from them, it becomes yours. I would imagine in most cases someone simply didn't take the time to remove the coin from their registry set or didn't want the hassle. In some cases the collector may have passed away and somebody else sold it that has no access to their registry. Really a coin put in a registry if re-sold could float around and change hands for years before somebody would buy it to put in a new registry because in the grand scheme not that many collectors do a registry set. It won't take that long for it to show up. I agree with johnm that it's amazing how many high ranking sets have zero pictures. Expensive collections that they don't even plug in NGC photos for or get a camera set up. Half the benefit of the registry is as an online resource that allows you to view high quality photos of your collection in an organized fashion from anywhere. If I didn't utiilize that aspect of it I wouldn't even bother using it.
I agree there should be encouragement to include pictures. Long time ago, I suggested to NGC that they should give a few extra points for including a picture. They said they would consider it, but nothing happened. Even worse than no pictures, at PCGS, they allow hidden sets. All you see is the rank and points. So much for a stated aim of the registry being to allow collectors to share their collections with each other. Cal
Know this, I had a pcgs coin. It had a variety listed right on the holder. I went to add it to NGC. They approved the coin but listed it as a different variety. I messaged them and they literally messaged me back and said it was listed properly. But my holder said small letters and they listed it as a large letter variety. I tried deleting it and adding it again and they just listed it as the year and no variety. So I messaged them again and they told me once again it was listed right. That was the day I messaged them back and said, I'll just stick with pcgs from now on. And that was the last time I paid membership for NGC.
Years ago PCGS had a bad habit of getting variety attribution wrong on the holder. They even got Red Book varieties wrong when the pictures in the Red Book were easily referenced. You are probably right about your attribution, but if you haven’t checked, don’t be too sure that PCGS got it right.
I already know about pcgs getting it wrong. I returned a misattributed coin to a seller who ultimately resubmitted it to get it fixed.
