1940-P missing & rotated date numbers

What the heck is this ? I checked other resources & was unable to locate this error/variety.

 

Log in or Sign up to hide this ad.

Post mint damage. I've seen similar coins.

 

Post mint damage or not, those are keepers in my book. I have a few 1940's with unusual things about them and keep all of them. 1940 must have been a strange year for the penny.

Until someone can prove to me how they are post mint damage without disturbing the area around the mistake, I put them in flips and store them.

 

I have had a couple in mint state,so I wouldnt jump on the post mint wagon.I cant type an answer now.i only have 1 arm.baby is asleep on the other.I cany even see the keyboard.

 

Just because it's mint state doesn't mean it happened in the mint.

 

LMAO, thanks for that response regardless of the obstruction.

 

Was it those Post-Mint Faeries?

 

I would say,per condition there really isnt any other explination.could have been grease struck through date,I have even seen the numbers hanging by a thread,maybe hit by the wheel just right.thats in the mint.just an opinion

add.yeah like yours.I think its a freak counter wheel hitting it just right,slicing it ,with nearly no mark present.I think their pretty rare in my eyes.as I have only seen less than a handful.but with the market uneducated about it,and no real way to tell what it is.nobody wants em.but me & you

 

Damage like the coin shown in post #1 did not happen during the actual minting of the coin. It could have happened inside the mint after minting, but that does not make it a mint error.

 

This is very true. I've seen several with moved letters/numbers that are in mint state.

What you have to remember is that the coins get banged around a lot at the mint even after the actual minting process and then they get banged around a lot more on their way to rolling companies and while at the companies that roll the coins for the mint. Search enough original rolls and you'll come across these "fresh from the mint." The coins may be interesting, but they are simply damaged goods.

 

Look at Lincoln's bust, there is damage there also. Post-mint in my opinion.

 

If you look at the line, you can see the "flight path" of whatever caused the damage. It first sheared off the rim, then part of the date and then damaged the jacket.

 

what's the possibility of someone taking a punch and carefully removing the numbers? If the coins been in circulation for many years, the punch scared area could have worn down & toned back.

 

Just plain weird looking!!

 

I remember reading a few years back about con artists who would cut away the 3rd digit of a 1924, 1934, 1944 or 1954 Lincoln and replace it with a "1".

Chris

 

1940

Here's the stuff I find and hold onto. This one not only has some sort of error with the zero in the date but the whole coin looks strange. Notice the texture of the surface, I'm almost certain it's a wrong planchet from possibly when we did minting for a foreign country. Brass or Bronze?

 

I have found several 1941 with similar damage but to the second 1 instead of the first. And a couple '50's with the 0 sheared to a semicircle with no noticeable damage, but then I found one that had that same damage and under higher magnification could see just a hint of where the number used to reside. I agree that it is post mint damage but happens in some machine after the minting.

But still a keeper in my book too, since they are hard to come by and are very striking.

*funny as I was typing the above someone posted about the 1940 with the strange damage to the 0 in '40 and it looks just like the one I was describing. Carved into a semicircle. Adds more credence to it's being a machine damage and not done by hand.

 

Once a coin leaves the coining chamber, any damage is considered PMD.

Even if it had been a dropped element, it would have been impressed into the coin and not lying on the surface. But, that would also mean that the (formerly grease-filled or debris-filled) number incused into the die would then be free of obstruction which would allow the number to be raised on the coin in its correct position.

Chris

 

I agree, they are worth keeping. I love anything out of the ordinary when it comes to coins and sport's cards.

 

The surface of that coin looks like it was whizzed some time back and has started to retone. I have a stack of cents at home that came as strays in a grab-bag of coins I recently bought and they were fresh from the whizzing. Gave them all a polished brass look.