my grading experience with PMG

Discussion in 'Paper Money' started by phubanks, Apr 12, 2010.

  1. phubanks

    phubanks Junior Member

    I just sent some notes to PMG and they assigned a "VF 25 (trimmed)" grade to this note.

    Does this look like a VF 25? (does being trimmed knock this down that much?)

    Maybe I am awful at grading, but i think this might be the best looking VF 25 i've ever seen.

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  3. se-collectibles

    se-collectibles Collector Extraordinaire

    It was probably netted because of the trimming.
     
  4. phubanks

    phubanks Junior Member

    no ... they didn't mark the note at "Net Grade" ... i've seen those ... but this isnt one
     
  5. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    It does look like an excellent note on the surface but i cant see any folds
    Or creases from this pic!!
     
  6. Marauderrt10

    Marauderrt10 Toners rule******

    the note was more than likely pressed which is why it looks so clean, if you look at the note under UV lighting you can see creases the naked eye cant.
     
  7. Brian339

    Brian339 Member

    That is a nice looking note. If PMG gave it a 25 there is a reason. This is why buying raw notes from ebay is dangerous not that you bought it from an ebay seller. That not looks unc in the picture.
     
  8. connor1

    connor1 Collector

    It looks a lot better then 25 ,cut it out of that PMG holder.Try PCGS and see what you get if you have an account.If you look at the back it might be a tiny bit off center from top to bottom but trimmed.....from that front picture I don't see it ? Very nice $1 Educational note !
     
  9. phubanks

    phubanks Junior Member

    compare my note with this other note graded by PMG as VF 25 (now this one I can see being a VF 25!)

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  10. phubanks

    phubanks Junior Member

    let me try that again ...

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  11. Marauderrt10

    Marauderrt10 Toners rule******

    The note could be the cleanest looking thing in the world to the naked eye, if they put it under UV lighting and find creases it will severely hurt the grade, which is more than likely the case here.
     
  12. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    Like i said before the note does look good but put under the UV lighting is
    Probably exposing alot of flaws you just cant see with the naked eye!!
     
  13. Marauderrt10

    Marauderrt10 Toners rule******

    ditto :hug:

    I would suggest you invest in a UV light, and a frosted piece of plastic (that covers over the flourescent strip lights) place the UV light under the plastic, and place the note on top of it. Dim the room lighting as much as possible and you will see tons of imperfections.
     
  14. phubanks

    phubanks Junior Member

    thanks for the info everyone!!! i will have to find a uv light.
     
  15. CheetahCats

    CheetahCats Colonial & Early American

    Here's mine. It's a PCGS VF-20.

    I wish I had gotten a better specimen, as the $1 Educational Series is my favorite note of all time, but that's all I could afford at the time.

    Anyways, I can't speak to whether your specimen was ironed etc., but I do see a significant difference considering the grade to which your specimen was assigned. Then again, I have a lot to learn with respect to currency grading.
     

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  16. CheetahCats

    CheetahCats Colonial & Early American

    Phubanks - Friendly FYI... in case you didn't already know... One can typically find them at the local drug or grocery stores. They are sometimes sold as "black light", or "party bulb". In either case, just look for a standard light bulb that has a really really dark-blue/purple appearance. With the bulb, you can easily screw it into any standard lamp.

    On a side note, for security purposes, I use an ultra-violet marker to invisibly mark a small symbol on the cardboard or an innocuous area on my holders/slabs. That way, if there's ever a "situation" where I'd need to prove a specimen is mine, all I have to do is shine a black light onto the holder/slab. (That's provided, of course, the specimen isn't removed from it's protective holder. Never mark a coin directly with anything!)
     

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  17. phubanks

    phubanks Junior Member

    Cheetah ... thanks for the black light tip!!

    On the education note ... i agree with you ... it's by far my favorite!!!
    Most people in this country have never seen one -- so it's cool to own one.

    I still have to say that it's amazing that my note only graded 5 points higher than yours (both a low grade VF ... yours a 20 and mine a 25)
     
  18. connor1

    connor1 Collector

    This should make both of you's feel better...This Raw one of mine has so many creases in it they would minus -25 mine.so I wouldn't even submit it.
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  19. CheetahCats

    CheetahCats Colonial & Early American

    Connor - I think you have a nice note. I encourage you to submit it.
     
  20. phubanks

    phubanks Junior Member

    These notes are cool in any grade connor
     
  21. connor1

    connor1 Collector

    Yes I like all the entire series $1-$2 forget about the $5 it's untouchable on my budget,someday maybe.But I think I can just sit on the $1 for now till a better graded one comes around or trade up if the opportunity happens.
     
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