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Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by ldhair, Apr 25, 2009.

  1. Stewart

    Stewart Searcher of the Unique

    Krispy,
    It is the lighting, I was heading out to the coin shop where I volunteer a couple days a week when I posted it. Forgot to explain it was shot under
    one of those compact florescent bulbs. I have found when looking at coins for varieties those types of bulbs for me bring out more detail for my old eyes. I forgot to change out the bulb when I photographed this one.

    Tater, Beautiful 73-S
    It looks like it has that mint frost on the inside of the individual left (our view) wings ??
     
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  3. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    Tater that sure is a nice 73-S!!
     
  4. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    Here that 1971-S MS-65

    This one oddly struck 1971-S in hand it look Proof like in some areas of the obverse and about 60% of the reverses is PL too. I not sure my photo will show what I am talking about. but for sure the die has been over polished and reworked & the chin look like it has a wing tip on it
    the die that struck this coin was ether a Proof die sandblasted to make it a mint stage die or one really defective die?here the photo I welcome your opinion's!!!
    and yes it has been post on the on the Ike group site about a 18 months ago
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  5. Stewart

    Stewart Searcher of the Unique

    Jello,
    Very Nice:eat:

    If I remember correctly Mr. Ezerman or Mr.Vaile (or both) of the Ike Group commented one time quite awhile back about a 1971-D that I posted that looked right along the lines of yours that they believed that it was struck on a proof planchet. The ones that were not quite up to snuff for proofs were shipped to Denver for regular production runs. Just a little information that I am aware of. Hope it helps
    Maybe some were used on the 40% Silver Uncirculated line also??? Not sure

    Stewart
     
  6. krispy

    krispy krispy

    Jello:

    Are the scratches on the coin from the die (or on the plastic holder), such as those scratch lines behind the portrait on the obverse and in all the small flat fields of the reverse? Was this intentionally done and left this way or it's a break down in the die that shows the scratchy lines?
     
  7. Tater

    Tater Coin Collector

    Very interesting chin. Do the scratches give it a three degree look to it or is it raised. Die clash?
     
  8. Tater

    Tater Coin Collector

    Newest Addition

    I got this one in this week.

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    A little bit of tone but I'll keep her.

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  9. Stewart

    Stewart Searcher of the Unique

    Tater,
    Very nice 72 T1 :thumb:
    I have always had a little bit of a hard time finding the Type 1's in real good condition.
    Congratulations
     
  10. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    1st nice one tater!!!!

    krispy all the scratches are on the coin.not the Ngc holder and was sent to Ngc out a box of 10 I got in 1971 Blue packs,still sealed:eek:dd: & this one was the only one like it in the box.
    but back in 1999 when Ngc graded it there was very few DV known on the Ike's.if I rember right there were about 4 well known Die Variety's at that time DDO/DDR & the peg leg R
     
  11. krispy

    krispy krispy

    Thanks jello. Do you know what caused those scratches? was it during coining or from being in the bag? handling post minting during packaging stages?
     
  12. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    IMO, the scratches on the jawline (a high point in the design) of Mr. Eisenhower are commonly referred to as "slide" marks and are the result of the packaging equipment. Similar scratches can be seen on most US Mint Set Kennedy Half's and IKE Dollars and they are grade limiting. I would not have given the coin an MS65.

    The scratches behind the portrait, on the other hand, I think are die polishing scratches. This opinion is based upon the number of polishing scratches shown on the Earth picture.

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  13. krispy

    krispy krispy

    Thank you for that response and for including your thoughts on how the coin graded. I was very curious about how the coin graded that way given the marks and whether there were certain unrecognized die states that led to those marks which a given TPG was willing to overlook as acceptable but not affecting their assessment and determination of the grade. Thank you.
     
  14. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Just wondering Jello are the scratches raised like die polishing marks , or in , like regular scratches ?
    rzage

    BTW: When these were in circulation a lot of people in Chicago called them Bo Dollars , anybody else ever hear the term anywhere else , African Americans mostly called them that , and I picked up on that .
     
  15. krispy

    krispy krispy




    There was a thread here on CT not too long ago where this term popped up:

    What is a "BO" dollar.
     
  16. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    Ok
    but do plan on having and IKE expert look at it,the coin is just to hard for my old 3.5mp camera to show ,the multiple way this was struck.in hand it look like a PL & Ms,mixed together
     
  17. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    It is not a mixture of Proof and MS but simply a highly lustrous 1971-S 40% Silver Business strike. I see nothing significant about the coin other than what has already been stated.
     
  18. Marauderrt10

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  19. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    Wow nice 74!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:kewl:
     
  20. krispy

    krispy krispy

    That's a stunning 74-S Marauderrt10!

    Do you know if this was a blue Ike pack? or what this coin in contact with a paper envelope for a long time? I'm also curious about the spots on the upper half of the reverse. I've seen these rust-like looking spots on other silver Ikes and am very curious what causes them? Is it the the clad material rusting/corroding? A bad metal composition mix in that batch? The corrosion reminds me of copper spots that appear on gold at times.
     
  21. Marauderrt10

    Marauderrt10 Toners rule******

    It was left in a felt box for about 20 years with a few other Ikes. They have similar toning to this one but not as vibrant. :D
     
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