Is cleaning a silver coin a no no??

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by Ambrola, Apr 3, 2010.

  1. Ambrola

    Ambrola Junior Member

    You guys remember a couple of weeks ago I met a guy and bought a bunch of wheats and some Ikes, Susans and half dollars. Can you clean the silver Ikes without hurting them?? I know I would never clean my Morgans, but theres quite a difference between the 2 in price. And by the way, I found a coin guy in the next town over who has thousands of slabbed coins. He has a 09 s vdb, but the tag on it was 1600.00. It is a very nice wheat, but I can't remember the grade. He wasn't there, but I am going back tommorow and see if we can deal.
     
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  3. DoK U Mint

    DoK U Mint In Odd we Trust

    Never

    Never do today what you cannot undo tomorrow.

    But I do suggest you have some fun.

    Get some ruined coins and try to un~ruin them.

    I got a wheat cent today in change and it is covered with crud.

    And I intend to leave it overnight in distilled water so I hopefully can read the date next week.

    But a Known winner is bound to not improve.

    My Known Losers get abused and never gain anything but uglyness.
     
  4. panda

    panda Junior Member

    wow i have that exact coin! in good condition as well, i can not believe he would ever get that much...
     
  5. Ambrola

    Ambrola Junior Member

    I would never give that much for that coin in any grade, hence the word, deal???
     
  6. panda

    panda Junior Member

    i figured that. i just think he is crazy for asking that much, and doubt he would ever get close to that. the price is just :eek:
     
  7. KennyMac

    KennyMac 82nd Airborne Division

    $1,600 for that wheat is asking for a miracle.
    If someone is willing to pay that price, more power to them, bro.
     
  8. swhuck

    swhuck Junior Member

    A 1909-S VDB is easily worth $1600 in most uncirculated grades.

    Coin World Trends lists the coin at $1600 in AU, and based on auction results that's probably a fairly accurate retail price. Keep in mind, though, that very few coins trade at full retail. :)
     
  9. DollarCollector

    DollarCollector Junior Member

    The only Ikes that contain silver are silver proofs. The business strikes are copper-nickel clads and have no silver.

    It was the first dollar coin to be made without silver.

    However, cleaning any coins is a risk of leaving behind marks on the reliefs that are easily detected by a trained eye. If the Ikes are in MS or better, you could de-value the coin.
     
  10. DollarCollector

    DollarCollector Junior Member

    A 1909-S VDB in G-4 has a retail price tag of $750.00, so Ambrola's friend's VDB must be in MS-63 to have a $1600.00 price tag to it.

    FYI, the 1909-S VDB has a mintage of 484,000 making it a rare coin., hence the premium in price.
     
  11. se-collectibles

    se-collectibles Collector Extraordinaire

    1971-76 S mint non-proofs were made that are 40% silver. Check your Redbook.
     
  12. DollarCollector

    DollarCollector Junior Member

    Which are in Mint Sets, ie uncirculated.

    The business strikes are copper-nickel clads.

    My mistake, I should have said circulating Ikes contain no silver!
     
  13. se-collectibles

    se-collectibles Collector Extraordinaire

    To the best of my knowledge, US coins are either business, SMS or proof strikes. The non-proof silver Ikes are business strikes as they were struck only once with no special precautions.
     
  14. DollarCollector

    DollarCollector Junior Member

    Yes I realize, and have stated this more than once to you now.

    The business strikes, ie circulating Ikes are copper-nickel clads.

    The 40% silver clads are in uncirculated mint sets or proof sets.
     
  15. se-collectibles

    se-collectibles Collector Extraordinaire

    That was for the benefit of those who didn't know. I didn't mean to imply you were wrong.
     
  16. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    If the coin has little or no value, Have some fun ;)
     
  17. Numismatist47

    Numismatist47 New Member

    Cleaning or dipping any coin, silver or non-silver, you run the risk of damaging the coin. There are many numismatists out there with a trained enough eye to spot a coin that has been cleaned or dipped, and in most cases, that can lower the value of your coin.
     
  18. sunflower

    sunflower New Member

    Better to experiment on a "cheaper" coin. I would leave the serious cleaning to a pro. Just an opinion.

    Someday you will be glad to have your clads!!!! Dirty or not.
     
  19. Numismatist47

    Numismatist47 New Member

    I've yet to find a "pro" who can clean any coin without the coin looking like it was cleaned.
     
  20. Ambrola

    Ambrola Junior Member

    I bought a 1909S VDB at a much better price and a higher grade. Now that slab question pops up again. The coins I have removed from slabs were not real expencive coins, the 1922 plain was the most at 400.00. I am haveing 2nd thoughts about this one? Now don't go jumping on me!!
     
  21. Ambrola

    Ambrola Junior Member

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