Poll: "In God We Trust" on coins?

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Should "In God We Trust" be on US coins?

  1. Yes

    122 vote(s)
    65.6%
  2. No

    51 vote(s)
    27.4%
  3. No Opinion

    13 vote(s)
    7.0%
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  1. cladking

    cladking Coin Collector

    How can anyone not worship Athena, Aphrodite, and Isis.

    Who would dare not worship Hathor.
     
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  3. se-collectibles

    se-collectibles Collector Extraordinaire

    Hmmm, I'm not familiar with Rollins. I did a quick google but didn't click on any of the links.

    Uh oh. If Thor, Ares and Mars get together, watch out.
     
  4. cladking

    cladking Coin Collector


    D'oh. I meant Tom Robbins. One of his best is Jitterbug Perfume (1984). He's very underrated. "Fierce Invalids" and his childrens' book "B is for Beer" are also interesting.

    Since Vonnegut died he's probably the finest living American fiction writer.


    ...so it goes
     
  5. Anokanite

    Anokanite Junior Member

    I believe in God also, but it does go against separation of church and state. What if other religions refused to accept it because they don't? At that time there were mainly Catholic and protestant here. Now we are much more diversified.
     
  6. zekeguzz

    zekeguzz lmc freak

    WELL STATED, GDJMSP. There are too many........ uhmmmmmm!! I just agree with what you said. Thanks. I don't want to get ...... again. zeke
     
  7. Ladies First

    Ladies First Since 2007

    I am offended that the corporate bailout monies were delivered electronically such that faith in no deity was invoked when we handed it over. Let's demand that all monetary exchanges require the motto somewhere in the process. The bond between money and Our Creator should be ONE.
     
  8. USCoinsInfo

    USCoinsInfo Junior Member

    I am surprised that some anti-religious groups haven't ever protested this, or at least that I know of. I could care less if it is on there, but it has been on coins for so long why bother even changing it?
     
  9. texmech

    texmech Wanna be coin collector

    I understand to help pay for the Health Care plan the government will allow advertising on coins. So we will soon have a coin that says, "Go Daddy" or "Gieco". The coins will start to look like a Nascar vehicle. Great idea:rolleyes:
     
  10. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Oh they have, several times. And there have been numerous court cases. They lost every one.
     
  11. se-collectibles

    se-collectibles Collector Extraordinaire

    Michael Newdow comes to mind. Even the 9th circus think he's a loon.
     
  12. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Mysticism and Tyrants

    By your standards, there would have been no reason to abolish slavery either, give women the vote, or enact civil rights. Sometimes, it's just the right thing to do regardless of how long you have been doing something wrong.
     
  13. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

    And that really does get to the crux of the matter. Regardless of whether it's been on there 2 years or 200 years, and regardless of what this historical figure or that historical figure may have thought about the matter, the issue is whether or not it should be on our money.
     
  14. DoK U Mint

    DoK U Mint In Odd we Trust

    Ya Momma

    Sometimes~?

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

    So have at it folks.

    I like the short version:

    "In God We Trust" being placed on items used in commerce.

    Or you can go with "their creator" which may mean Ya Momma & and the Horse she rode on.....

    If you want to start a movement to remove it, that is your right to.:pencil:
     
  15. walmann

    walmann Two loups and myopic

    Since the motto first appeared on US coins, can anyone point to the establishment of a offical US Federal Religion? And how this has been used and impacted our society?

    Offensive, some may find it, but "almost" anything that may appear on a coin may be deemed by some individual or group as offensive, whether it be a particular President, arrows being held in a eagles claw, the eagle itself, the representation of Liberty ( I recall RWB stating that the representation of Liberty is that of the Goddess Liberty, a Goddess, how offensive that should be).

    Can't find anything in the Constitution stating there is a basic right not to be offended.

    For those that find the motto offensive they may wish to avoid visiting the Supreme Court building as well. This narrows the number of possible inclusive religions much more so than the use of the word God.

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  16. se-collectibles

    se-collectibles Collector Extraordinaire

    As far as I'm concerned, that's the crux of the matter. Political correctness and all that jazz.

    Can't do anything that might be considered offensive to anyone. They'll remove Christmas trees and menorahs, because they're offensive to 1 person in a trillion billion, but if they try to remove anything remotely related to Islam, all hell breaks loose.

    Somewhere in California there's a cross in remembrance of those who didn't come back from war. It's off the beaten path, you have to know where it is to even see it, yet the gov't is trying to have it taken down because it's offensive.

    I'd love to have used stronger words, but I didn't want to offend anyone.

    (that's sarcasm):whistle:
     
  17. Darkhorse

    Darkhorse Junior Member

    Most of my transactions are done online or by debit. There's no deference to Yahweh in these electronic units, so the motto doesn't affect me in this sense.

    I, personally, don't trust in God. But seeing as how the vast majority of people do, I don't see the current motto being changed or replaced any time soon without an uproar that would be more trouble and annoyance than it would be worth.

    However I would like to work within the current framework. I would like to see E Pluribus Unum officially codified as an official motto concurrent with IGWT, instead of it remaining a de facto one. I think E Pluribus Unum is a far better motto and a true statement - having it made official would give it some more recognition and it would be up to the individual citizen to support it (or the other) according to their own conscious.

    Also, would those who support the current official motto be willing to have US commemoratives without it? Thomas Paine wasn't a particularly God-Trusting fellow, Samuel Clemens disparaged the motto, and TR (as mentioned before) didn't see it as being fit for coins. IGWT may not be appropriate for commems for these individuals.
     
  18. Darkhorse

    Darkhorse Junior Member

    Actually the Supreme Court building is very much inclusive to a number of religions (including Islam!) and secular law:

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/capital.asp
     
  19. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Mysticism and Tyrants

    I don't think it is as offensive as it is exclusionary. By including only one viewpoint, you exclude everyone else's viewpoint. In a secular country such as the U.S., why should anyone find that acceptable?
     
  20. cladking

    cladking Coin Collector

    Excellent point. All those trillions of dollars handed out like monopoly money to reward bthe very people who caused the whole problem and not one appeal to or glorification of The deity on a single one of them. It's not Chtristian. The money should be nullified with the stroke of a computer key and reissued in pennies.
     
  21. cladking

    cladking Coin Collector

    The Constitution is the United States.

    It might be impossible to keep politics off coins and currency whern we allow politicians to make the decisions but it sure as hell shouldn't be that hard to keep religioon off of them.

    Two things that aren't polite in public and even 400,000,000,000 less than worthless cents have to include both of them!
     
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