What year between 1909 - Present date has the most variety coins?

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  1. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    Considering the suggestion of thinking out side the box...Guidance please, on inclusion (or not) of clashes?
     
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  3. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I am going to say what a couple others have said the 60D Lincoln has many different RPM's.
     
  4. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Only varieties that were listed above .
     
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  5. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    Thanks.
     
  6. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    I wasn't going to split hairs here as to what is or isn't a variety. Just the major known varieties.
     
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  7. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    We will give you a hall pass but god help you if we catch you smokin in the boys room! ;)
     
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  8. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    good work Razz but only cents though half dollars as most collectors only are concerned or collect those .so 1 cent -50 cents
     
    Last edited: Sep 22, 2022
  9. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    I was expecting some early 1 cent Sheldon enthusiasts to opine. There are some ripe contender choices.

    Don't make me have to come here and do their job.....
     
  10. justafarmer

    justafarmer Senior Member

    I have to agree - Wexler lists over 150 different RPMs just for the 1960-D Lincoln Memorial Cent.
     
  11. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Ok let me end this post also now, its mid week mid day a lof of members are at work.
    But first let me say this...I love my dogs...it funny how for the most part they live in the now. Yum a cookie dog biscut ,or rub my belly. Yes true they do have recall of bad as well good experiences .

    We sometimes remind me of our 4 footed friends.
    Not thinking out side the box ,getting stuck in one frame of mind...

    Now I cannot say the next paragraphs are 100 % correct but after you review the data I believe that if not the highest pretty close or at least second.

    If a member asked me Paddy what year would you choose to look or hunt or look for a variety coin....be it any of the major known varieties one would seek....my answer would be 1943 for US coins from cents though half dollars. Here is the break down as close as my references gave me.

    Cents 1943 P ddo 25
    D " " 14
    S " " 5
    P ddr. 15
    D " " 15
    S " " 6
    RPM. D rpm 22
    S " " 8
    1943 nickel
    DDO's
    P " " 24
    D. " " 1
    S. " " 13
    DDR 's
    P " " 11
    D " " 4
    S " " 6
    RPM's. P. " " 72
    D. " " 16
    S " " 6
    This isnt including over dates!


    1943 10 cent or dime

    DDR 1
    RPMs 43 D 10
    43 S 4
    1943 quarter
    DDO P " " 50
    D " " 9
    S " " 22
    DDR. P " " 8
    D. " " 4
    S " " 2
    Rpm. D " " 11
    S " " 5
    Lastly 1943 50 cents

    DDO. 5
    RPM 43 D. 2
    43 S. 1

    I count 362 varieties for 1943 +/- depending on newly found not listed in my reference.

    I am no expert but venture to say if hunting varieties your best bet would be the coinage of 1943.
    The Jeffersons alone there is probably more nickels that are a variety than not.
    I didn't check other years between 1909 and 2022 but pretty sure that 1943 would be a year with a bumper crop of varieties.
    Now that I have given my answer...would anyone wish to speculate why 1943 would there be so many varieties to hunt?
     
    Last edited: Sep 22, 2022
  12. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    I am not a cent collector as for variety coins I wasn't aware myself of this many...and that said just been educated. ;) which is a good thing.
    The porpose of this post is just that...to learn. As well use whats has been learned either as a YN or a dino... knowledge is power...
     
    Last edited: Sep 22, 2022
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  13. justafarmer

    justafarmer Senior Member

    Actually I must have underestimated cause here is a link to Wexler's website providing images for Lincoln Cent 1960-D WRPM-268 and WRPM-269.
    http://www.doubleddie.com/2367800.html
     
  14. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    I use variety vista more than Johns site...however I do use both as a check . I do hear from quite a few collectors that they do not by into a split serif on 1 or 2 digits,and or letters. I have happen twice been given a letter stating a new variety or discovery only to receive another letter having it de listed.
    You will also find what I call skip thats were one sez the variety is an 002 and another lists it as an 003.
    The reason is that between 001 and 003 the one attributer has placed another variety between the two numbers.
    Some may agree some not....but again my reasons for posting this thread as well the buffalo ddr one is to make collectors aware that the answers are out there...and can be found to be correct or false before one goes ahead makes a statement or call that can be refuted.
    As well are we splitting hairs here .... as to my liking 1 split serif does a dd make..... or that something as drastic as a 55 ddo cent that all doubled dies need be.
     
  15. justafarmer

    justafarmer Senior Member

    Still each new discovery is issued a sequential catalog number of which for the 1960-D Cent John has reached at least WRPM #269. It could actually be higher. Yes varieties are delisted for various reasons. And these catalog numbers remain blank until re-issued to subsequent new discoveries. A practice I am not particularly fond of.

    Anyway in my prior post I stated that Wexler lists over 150 different RPMs for the 1960-D Lincoln Cent. Now I am sure some voided listings exists but doubt the number is anywhere near 119.

    And whether or not there are people who consider some of the listings as trivial - still these unique trivial characteristics does allow one to attribute the coin to the specific working die that struck it.
     
  16. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    No, it’s not a cent, it’s the 1827 Bust half Dollar. There are 49 known varieties so far not including the various die states :)

    …to be fair there are only 3 Redbook varieties:
    1827, 7 over 6
    1827, Square Base 2
    1827, Curl base 2

    …and to comment on this:
    To see what you think would be the year most likely the best chance to cherrypick a variety?

    I think with some knowledge and luck you could cherrypick one of the R5/R6 die varieties… like this one :)

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    Last edited: Sep 22, 2022
  17. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    It's an interesting question.
     
  18. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Cheech, I think you put your thumb on it. :)
     
  19. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Yes it is However as a variety collector I personally do not scribe to each and every split serif as being a doubled die.
    Wexler, as well Wiles may ...more so John but there's been so many that are so minor its hard to keep up with. Now true a split serif may be a ddo or an ddr but unless it is a major doubled die I just pass them by.
    And Ive seen then given the attribution then delisted...it has happen to me twice were in writting Ive been given the paper work as well the numbers and then delisted.
    On Vam world youll see quite a few vams now delisted from what were listed varieties.
     
  20. QuintupleSovereign

    QuintupleSovereign Well-Known Member

    Well, I'm pretty sure that I know which year had among the least varieties, just by the lack of coinage across denominations: 1922.

    With only the cent (1922-D, 1922 "no D" ), silver dollar (1922, 1922-D, 1922-S), and double eagle (1922, 1922-S) minted that year, I've always thought that particular date set to be disappointingly short! :(
     
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