Help needed to identify this Medal

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  1. Lueds

    Lueds Well-Known Member

    I'm not sure where this belongs, but I was trying to identify this medal. I don't have it in hand, but like the design so much I was considering purchasing. Can't find references for it anyplace.

    Thanks 1922 Habana Medal Obv.jpg 1922 Habana Medal Rev.jpg
     
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  3. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Well-Known Member

    Havana, Cuba. Expo medal
     
  4. Lueds

    Lueds Well-Known Member

    Do you have a reference for this?

    I can't find anything about it.
     
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  5. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    I found an old auction listing for a pair of them, but the pictures are gone and there is no sale data. There is, however, a price estimate on the pair, which do not sound to have been quite as nice as yours.
     
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  6. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    It may have something to do with Cuba’s participation in a 1922 exposition that was held in Rio de Janeiro. I can’t find anything about an exposition that was held in Cuba at that time.
     
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  7. Lueds

    Lueds Well-Known Member

    Thanks, it does sound like it, trying to find references to it is the challenge atm.

    Thanks, I figured it was an Exposition of some form and the Medal is from Cuba, but the challenge has been finding a catalogue attribution/reference
     
  8. Lueds

    Lueds Well-Known Member

    On further investigation I found the archived sales on the Auction house that it was offered through. The lot never sold, the medals are gorgeous, but perhaps cleaned.

    Never sold on the day.

    https://www.dnw.co.uk/auction-archive/lot-archive/lot.php?lot_uid=215382
     
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  9. Lueds

    Lueds Well-Known Member

    Interestingly Wiki says that 14 countries participated, but only mentions 13, another more complete article mentions a few more countries than that, but cites unreliability of reports used to compile and none of them mention Cuba.
     
  10. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Have you found anything that say's they may have been as an original thought to the exposition but failed to meet the criteria?
    These medals could be the only produced to the board of the directors.
     
  11. Joshua Lemons

    Joshua Lemons Well-Known Member Supporter

    It's a really lovely medal. I particularly like the font used for the year 1922. Do you happen to know if the edge is inscribed bronze or anything?
     
  12. Joshua Lemons

    Joshua Lemons Well-Known Member Supporter

    I've spent some time trying to track down a Cuban medalist. No luck. But, Charles Barber designed much of Cuba's coinage in the early 1900's and 1910's before his death The designs carried over until the mid 1930's. Cuban coins were also minted at the Philadelphia mint, the pesos interestingly on the same blanks as peace dollars. Now, I saw several Barber medals unsigned but attributed to him. The following engraver, George T. Morgan had medals as well, but most of them I saw were signed. Following him was Sinnock, who designed the Roosevelt dime and Franklin half, but of note many of his medals were unsigned and featured liberty and women in long dresses. Either way, I have a sneaking hunch that the medals origins lie within the U.S. mint and it's designers/engravers, but which one it would be, I don't know. Likely not Barber for this medal as he died in 1917.
     
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  13. masterswimmer

    masterswimmer A Caretaker, can't take it with me

    Gotta love the raised high relief on the obv. That truly is a beautiful medal.
     
  14. Lueds

    Lueds Well-Known Member

    Don't know at this point. If I get it in hand I'll do follow up pictures.
     
  15. Lueds

    Lueds Well-Known Member

    Good thought, but zero information. Other than the 2 offered for sale in England in 2012, this one is the only other I have found. Trying to find more info and I'm in negotiations with the seller atm.
     
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  16. Cachecoins

    Cachecoins Historia Moneta

    Lovely work of art that is.
     
  17. Lueds

    Lueds Well-Known Member

    No inscriptions
     
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  18. Lueds

    Lueds Well-Known Member

    So I purchased it and now waiting for it's arrival.
     
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  19. Joshua Lemons

    Joshua Lemons Well-Known Member Supporter

    I'm curious, did the medal arrive? Any more info on it? I'm a member now of a Cuban numismatic FB group. I could ask there
     
  20. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    WE NEED UPDATE
     
  21. Joshua Lemons

    Joshua Lemons Well-Known Member Supporter

    Not looking good, last log in was March....
     
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