Coin terms I really hate

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Rushmore, Sep 5, 2022.

  1. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    The term" slider" WTH ? Its either a given grade or not....there's no limbo between two grades. Nope its a vf or an xf yes true a coin can have one side better than the other...but again how does a vf slide into an xf holder?
    And if thats the case...can it slide backwards? Xf to a vf?

    I do believe that many terms were locally used that broke free as time went on.... but the term slider has always made me wonder what????
     
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  3. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    I do believe that your observances on zinc cents is correct... however I feel that attitude towards them
    Is justified by older collectors because of the cheapness of the coin.
    Collectors my age have issues with the composition of US coins after 1969. As the money got cheaper collectors lost interest in collecting coins that were made from composition other than silver and copper.
    Not saying world coin collectors in the US didn't exist in the 1960's and 70's but unlike European and other countries the main focus in the states was US coinage.
    I do believe that as time went on ...air travel became evey day to the everyday person not just upper class and business class...more world collecting became popular here in the states.
    Now Ill probably be crucified for my next statement but even as a collector the time for the cent,half dollar,and dollar coin to go!
    Working in retail food for 4 decades I can assure you the needs for coins in a retail setting today is no where what it was 10 to 20 years ago...
    As a store manager I place an order for coins twice a week. Cents through quarters...to count a 100 dollar bank for a cashiers pan.
    That was durring a time when cash checks were the major payment methods used.
    A check took 5 to 7 days to clear...now a days you write a check hand it to the cashier they stick it in and run it then hand it back to you. Its treated like a debit card.
    What I find amusing is that even in modern retail terminals no longer cash registers as most transactions arent cash... still have a cash pan that has compartments for cents-dollars ,as well dollars- $100 bills. Yet half the pan is empty...why 99.9% transactions are eletronic ...theres no need for cents.The Candians saw this coming years ago... doing away with...
    The Federal Reserve bank of Richmond, Baltimore branch has a under ground vault loaded to the max
    With bags of $1 coins...that John Q Public refused to use...yet we mint more every year.
    A total waste to mint coins that will never be used...
    With the pandemic's these days one would surprised that majority retail customers no not care to handel money any longer.
     
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  4. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Well, y'know, we could give up on absorbent fiber notes and cheap, toxic/allergenic nickel and zinc, and just start making coins from metals that have natural anti-bacterial and antiviral properties, like, say, copper and silver. ;)

    Or, of course, stop using cash.

    I know which one I'd prefer as a collector, and it's not the same one I'd prefer as a consumer. :(
     
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  5. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    I don't mind the zinc. Considering hardwood floor shims and metal panel shims an backer shims and ceramic and stone shims and spacers and wood trim shims are in the cost range of .06 cents to 29 cents each, that is all I use.
     
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  6. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    When I was servicing stores, or doing sets up,and training...I walk out the front door of the store...and see change thrown on the ground.
    Hell as a kid I walk the highway looking for 2 cent pop bottles to return...
    The times have definitely changed....
     
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  7. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Yep. There came a time (quite a few years back now) when I realized my job paid close to one cent per second, and it was taking more than a second for me to reach down and pick up a cent on the ground. Mind, I'll still do it if the cent looks interesting. I just won't go out hunting for them.
     
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  8. H8_modern

    H8_modern Attracted to small round-ish art


    I think something like “Early Release” is pure marketing BS because it doesn’t really mean anything. A 1905 top pop is meaningful while a 1985 top pop is meaningless.
     
  9. Good Cents

    Good Cents Well-Known Member

    "Privy"

    Where did that word come from and how did it come to mean what it does on a coin? Did someone come up with it while in the........ privy?
     
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  10. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    A privy mark was originally a small mark or differentiation in the design of a coin for the purpose of identifying the mint, moneyer, some other aspect of the coin's origin, or to prevent counterfeiting. One of the first instances of a privy mark used as a counterfeit measure was during the 17th century in a plan proposed by Sir Edward Ford to mint farthings, halfpence and three-farthings.
    In modern times, the privy mark is used as a design and marketing feature.
     
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  11. Good Cents

    Good Cents Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the history lesson.

    It is not called "privy mark" anymore. It's simply called "privy". So, this or that coin has a horse privy. Privy with this meaning is supposed to be an adjective, not a noun. As a noun it means an outhouse.

    Strage bedfellows.
     
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  12. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Privy, sounds like the name of a bathroom in Vietnam for the US Army.
     
  13. MIGuy

    MIGuy Supporter! Supporter

    I don’t see the need to fuss, these are perfectly cromulent letterballs.
     
  14. Omegaraptor

    Omegaraptor Gobrecht/Longacre Enthusiast

    Likewise, the 1923-S Lincoln is considered a “better date” for those just trying to fill holes in the Lincoln Cent album, but is possibly the hardest coin in the series to find nice examples of.
     
  15. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    And those zinc cents will rot over time. Even paying the huge premium for red copper is scary. Just a matter of time until they start getting brown.
    At least with silver it tarnishes nicely.
     
  16. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    I look at it as getting paid to do exercise.
     
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  17. Catbert

    Catbert Evil Cat

    I don't collect modern coins, but the whole "First Strike" labelling is such a crock and blatant marketing manipulation.

    What about poor word spelling in our hobby? Loop vs loupe for example.
     
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  18. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    "Commerative"

    "Shinny"
     
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  19. davidh

    davidh soloist gnomic

    What?..nobody's offended by "Penny" any more?

    How about the marketing of damaged coins as something special and desirable? I'm speaking of toning, especially of the "rainbow" persuasion which is tarnishing and oxidation.

    Then there's the acceptance of and overlooking the damage to high value and rare coins that would drop the grade of any "common" coin.

    Seven layers of Mint State, plus a few +'s thrown in along with stickers?
     
  20. LakeEffect

    LakeEffect Average Circulated Supporter

    I collect shinny commerative nickles. People get jealous because there better then there nickles. Typical internet loosers. ;):troll:
     
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  21. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    <twitch>
     
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