(Read this sentence in your best Goombah voice) Both of you guys....OOOOOHHHH! Did you read my post? Here's a little quote that's relevant: "Coins receive stars for different reasons, all based around superior eye appeal" I didn't say anything about the grade!!! <sigh>
From what I understand a star simply means it has extra nice eye appeal... that would apply to PF/PR MS, AU, etc. Anything thats ___ grade but also has exceptional eye appeal. I would think the higher grader the harder a star would be simply because an AU coin that looks better than average is easy to come by but a PF69 from 1881 is a lot lot lot harder to come by, especially one that has extra eye appeal needed for STAR.
There actually are AU Prooflike and even a few DMPL Morgans out there. Heritage Search So it would be possible for an AU coin to get a star for semi PL surface, or one side PL surfaces. Here are some circulated star coins: Search results for: star
All you need to know about the star designation from NGC themselves: http://www.ngccoin.com/coingrading/stardesignation.asp The key is, there can't be any distracting contact marks or blemishes. Which eliminates the majority of AU's from the get-go. Here's the main thing: "While there are many features that may lead to a coin receiving a star, there is one thing that always holds true: every star designated coin is something special to see." This articles says they expanded the star designation starting Jan. 1st, 2008 to include ALL grades. Apparently it was limited to 63's and above before that. I never knew that. http://www.ngccoin.com/news/viewarticle.aspx?IDArticle=957
You guys have forced the sheriff into action. Originally, the star designation only applied to coins graded MS63-MS69. On January 1st, 2008, NGC expanded the star designation to include every grade with the exception of the MS/PF70 grades. Here is the quote and link: NGC EXPANDS STAR DESIGNATION BTW, In the link is a photo of an 1814 CBH slider with a star. Check it out!
Ya. "Good for the grade." Meaning, within any grade (Let's, for kicks, say MS-66), it's a "good" coin. I went on to elucidate that being "good" is based on superior eye appeal. Not a huge deal, and I'm not trying to pick a fight, I just want to be understood. As the song goes... "Baby, do you understand me now? Sometimes I feel a little mad But, don't you know that no one alive can always be an angel When things go wrong I seem to be bad I'm just a soul whose intentions are good Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood"
i did read that doesnt mean it answers said questions. the article regarding the expansion of coins getting a star helped.
Oh, I'm just a noobie with all the NGC/PCGS lingo. This is only my 3rd slabbed coin, but its the 36th morgan in my collection. It's by far the best though!
Did those threads I provided help answer your question? If not, keep asking questions, we will be happy to answer them.
To put that into perspective - there are almost 19,000 1881-S Morgans graded MS66 and almost 5,000 more graded higher than that. If you were to look at the 1882-S - there are about 30,000 of them graded MS66. About 19,000 1880-S graded MS66; about 13,000 1879-S graded MS66. And none of this takes into account all of those that have the *, none that are graded PL, and none that are graded DMPL. Add those all in and the numbers increase significantly. The point is that the 1879 thru 1882 S mint Morgans are so common in MS66 that it is hard for most to even believe it. They are the perfect example coin as to why coins from different date/mint combinations must be graded differently than others. And it is worth noting that all of these thousands of coins, if they had a different mint mark or date than they do - they would all be graded at least MS67 or higher.