Is this toning attractive to you? 1883 O morgan dollar.

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  1. Artillery87

    Artillery87 Active Member

    I am kind of on the fence with the look of the toning (especially the reverse) on this 1883-O morgan dollar. Is it attractive to the average coin collector??? I kind of like it but could definetely see why some may not. It does have good luster in hand... I know its not close to a gem but I still might hold on to it...
     

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  3. SilverMike

    SilverMike Well-Known Member

    Toning is so individual but this one isn’t appealing to my eye.
     
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  4. Artillery87

    Artillery87 Active Member

    Here's a few more in different lighting. SilverMike thanks for the opinion I dig it.
     

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  5. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    I agree with @SilverMike on the individuality. Case in point, I like the toning. It took a lot to get there, it isn't masking anything, and the coin is in good shape. The eye-movement through it is erratic, and that's the drawback, at least as I see it.
     
  6. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    No, I wouldn't want it, I just don't find it appealing at all. The surface looks too worn for my liking!
     
  7. Joshua Lemons

    Joshua Lemons Well-Known Member Supporter

    I do like the obverse better. The reverse, especially near the edge is a bit too dark for my taste.
     
  8. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat Well-Known Member

    Not a fan of terminal stage toning myself.
     
  9. Maxfli

    Maxfli Well-Known Member

    Not attractive to me, because I'm not a fan of heavy toning.

    If you're asking in the sense of, "would this coin fetch a toning premium if I decided to sell?", I think the answer would be yes.
     
  10. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Cannot tell, as the lighting does not show the toning well. The photographs aren’t clear enough to determine the quality of the toning, without it being a total guess.
     
  11. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    The golden toning is nice and appealing to me but that black ring that has formed around the coin on both sides kills it for me. I’d pass on this one.
     
  12. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC

    The lighting really doesn't do the coin justice. I think you need something a little more white to judge a grade.

    Do I believe the toning is appealing?
    Yes, but with a caveat - the reverse. I think the terminal ring around the reverse could make or break this coin, at least on the toning front. Might be the light again, but it really does look quite dark, and the farther that toning goes the less I'd have interest.

    Looks like a decent coin for an 1883-O, one of the worst years of the New Orleans mint.
     
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  13. COOPER12

    COOPER12 Well-Known Member

    I can not get a good feel in this one. I like some toned coins .
     
  14. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    I like my coins like they just came off the press but I can appreciate toner fans. It's an acquired thing, I guess. But I am def. not a fan of terminal toning.
     
  15. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    I think it’s interesting enough to draw a premium. As long as there is no cleaning or altered surfaces, I’d guess you would get a decent amount over generic AU/low MS pricing.
     
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  16. Artillery87

    Artillery87 Active Member

    I really dont like this kind of "toning" either like most of you. Come to find out it was more of a layer of grime than toning. I found out because a tiny colorful spot easily scraped off with very little effort from my fingernail! I know its ill advised but I decided to let it soak in acetone to get the dirtyness off then did a quick dip in e-z-est followed by a gentle rinse and pat dry. I wouldn't attempt this with a valuable coin but this isnt even a very nice coin anyway and I figured it would look better. I like it alot better now. What do you think???
     

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  17. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat Well-Known Member

    Huge improvement over the previous images. Now I can make out that it's a VAM-36B. Is there any sign of the clashed E left?
     
  18. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    It is much nicer than before. The first photo I looked at was the reverse and the first thing so saw was a nice die crack. You couldn’t see it before.
     
  19. Artillery87

    Artillery87 Active Member

    Yeah I now see that spot under the eagles neck indicating the VAM36. I honestly didn't notice it until Dave brought it to my attention. Thanks Dave. It actually ended up being a decent coin. It was almost like it was colored with a crayon lol
     
  20. Jim Dale

    Jim Dale Well-Known Member

    I just saw this site and it interested me. I don't have many "toned" coins. Maybe about 7-8. I bought a couple of Limited Edition Silver Proof Sets (2002 & 2006, I think). Anyway, there was a little toning on the edge of the ASE's. One one of the coins there was a little on the edge of a couple of the coins in the 2002. I knew it had some toning when I bought it through ebay. The price was right and, for the most part, the coins looked very good, so I wasn't too concerned. Mostly, because what I buy, I buy for keeps and I don't have to worry about someone that wants to buy a set.
    I don't know why, but, I bought 2 2017 Limited Edition Silver Proof Sets. The one I got from the Mint was toned a little. The other one I bought through ebay and it was pristine. I like the idea of having one toned and the other set is not.
    To each, his or hers, own.
     
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