1808 Capped Bust: How would you grade?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by The Meat man, Aug 31, 2022.

  1. The Meat man

    The Meat man Supporter! Supporter

    My main collecting interest is in ancient coins but I do enjoy the handful of US coins I own too. Here is one of them, a capped bust half dollar. I just took some photos (not great, I know, but the best I can do right now) and put them together in this little presentation:

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    I am curious what you all think the coin's grade is? With ancients, grading is less exact and there's a lot of room for interpretation; I know that US coins are graded much more stringently but I'm not equipped with that kind of experience.

    Thanks! And, feel free to post your own Capped Bust coins, or any other early US coins. :)
     
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  3. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    F-20, maybe VF-25
     
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  4. CircCam

    CircCam Victory

    Nice coin! VF20/25 sounds about right.
     
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  5. Mr.MonkeySwag96

    Mr.MonkeySwag96 Well-Known Member

    I’ve been collecting US coins long before I got into ancients. Almost all of my US coins are slabbed, unlike my ancient coins which are kept raw:

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  6. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    VF20- VF30. Can't decide. :happy:
     
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  7. okbustchaser

    okbustchaser I may be old but I still appreciate a pretty bust Supporter

    Struck from worn out and broken dies...coin is high VF...30 to 35. Most of the missing detail on the reverse was never there when the coin was new.

    Here is an AU of the same die marriage.

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  8. 1stSgt22

    1stSgt22 I'm just me! Supporter

    VF 25 for me!
     
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  10. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    VF-20. It looks to have been cleaned, but coins from that era often get a pass.
     
  11. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    nice, but, I'd say VF.
     
  12. The Meat man

    The Meat man Supporter! Supporter

    Thank you all very much!

    @johnmilton The photos don't show it very much but there is actually a good bit of darkish discoloration on the surfaces, so I don't think it has been cleaned.

    @okbustchaser Thanks for posting that! Hadn't thought of the worn dies (although I did notice the big die crack on the obverse (7 o'clock)
     
  13. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    Nice coin. I think all of the previous posters are spot on:
    - it sure was weakly struck, i.e. some areas are expected to have a “worn look”
    - it may have been lightly cleaned
    - it should grade VF30-ish or maybe get a net grade because of the cleaning

    Looks like O-102a R2, but I am tired and won’t bet the farm on it.
     
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  14. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    I think VF-something and defer to others with more knowledge of the series. From the photos it looks like it was cleaned in the past and then retoned, but I think it would get a straight TPG grade. I really like the design of the early busties.
     
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