1859-O Dollar

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  1. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I’m having a memory lapse so don’t yell at me if I did. I thinking I didn’t post this coin so here it is.
    An 1859-O Liberty Seated Dollar. Only 360,000 were minted but that is one of the highest mintages, if not thee highest, of the series.
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  3. MeowtheKitty

    MeowtheKitty Well-Known Member

    It looks cleaned to Meow.
     
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  4. lardan

    lardan Well-Known Member

    Nice coin, but also looks cleaned the reverse breast plate has 3D look.
     
  5. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Not cleaned, just looks that way. I bought this from a dealer but I dealt with for years and he is the most honest person you could ever meet in your life. If the coin was clean and he sold it he told you. It even write it on the 2 x 2 flip.
     
  6. Mr.MonkeySwag96

    Mr.MonkeySwag96 Well-Known Member

    Here is my 1860-O graded PCGS VF35:

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    Not sure if your coin is cleaned based on pictures alone. However, this light gunmetal tone is quite common on circulated Seated dollars, as evident on your coin and my coin. Is that graffiti above the eagle’s head on your example?
     
  7. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    The image of the 59-O make it look cleaned. It also looks like graffiti on the reverse.
    Most coins of this age were cleaned at some point in their life. It boils down to if the services call it a harsh cleaning. I don't know from the images. Either way, it's still a nice coin.
     
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  8. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Interestingly enough, the 1859-O is one of the more common dates in Mint State. In the early 1960s, a bag or more of them was uncovered when the treasury was paying off people who were making a run on the Treasury's hoard of silver dollars. Back then you could trade paper dollars for silver dollars. Most every neighborhood bank had them available, and people were going to Washington and getting more. I remember seeing them lined up on the news.

    Most of those dollars, which are 1859-O and 1860-O, are low end Mint State pieces, and many of them have been cleaned or dipped.
     
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  9. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    No it’s not graffiti. It could be what’s left of a clash but it’s worn down. It could be minor circulation damage.
     
  10. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    59-60-O seated dollars common even in ms. But they’re usually ugly. Bag beat too death and often have cleaned surfaces. Actually I think 3/4 of the straight graded seated dollars I see in slabs shouldn’t be. They get a pass for surface problems more than any other series I think
     
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  11. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    I only have one mintmarked seated dollar. A 46-o
     
  12. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    That’s better than having none.
     
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  13. Mr.MonkeySwag96

    Mr.MonkeySwag96 Well-Known Member

    The leniency of TPG towards Seated dollars reminds me of Draped Bust silver coinage. I’ve seen quite a few Draped Busts that shouldn’t straight grade. An example being my 1805 quarter graded PCGS AG03:

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  14. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Yes it’s worn but I see no reason not to straight grade her.
     
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  15. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Many years ago, PCGS sent both of these back in bags as cleaned.
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  16. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member


    Yes. I too am surprised that PCGS gave that one a straight grade. Maybe the grader felt as I do that an AG-3 deserves some slack, especially an early silver piece. I would not test your luck, however. The grade could be different next time.
     
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  17. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

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  18. Rushmore

    Rushmore Coin Addict

    I'm envious of anyone having a Seated Liberty or Bust Dollar.
     
  19. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    I have both. How about a flowing hair? E8BCA80D-5C70-466A-AD07-810BC2A0C817.jpeg 761E3495-443B-4DB5-A351-6004D3EBA3D1.jpeg EC18CF23-5D4F-4540-9C6E-DCC129E1845B.jpeg 1556AD29-DAD6-4953-801C-9B75B330ECF2.jpeg EA2338D4-B4CE-475D-A491-CEB80804BB61.jpeg F497E5C3-7600-4FF9-892C-CCEAA832A7D0.jpeg FF010843-E349-43B6-8793-17D5D1C1191F.jpeg 8E291550-1CC9-4EC7-92CE-BE79F3E51471.jpeg 2286D8AA-05EA-4B0B-9E32-5291DBD72D1A.jpeg
     
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    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

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