Crispus from a pick bin at ANA

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  1. cmezner

    cmezner do ut des Supporter

    Recently I have been looking for a Crispus coin and got this one, Treveri mint, at the ANA fair from the H&B pick bin :)
    Crispus was killed by his father Constantine the Great.

    Interestingly, the bust on this coin has what is known as "Treveri fur" (“Trierer Pelzchen”) and it was only used on coinage of the three sons of Constantine I: Constantin II, Constantius II and Crispus at the Treveri mint two officinas: P and S. However, its meaning hasn’t been determined yet.

    Æ Follis
    Gallia, Treveri, 325-326 AD, mint mark -/-/ PTR <crescent> P = Prima, 1st Officina under the authority of Constantine I
    2.8 g
    RIC VII Trier 462
    Ob.: FL IVL CRISPVS NOB CAES laureate, draped cuirassed bust left with “Trier Pelzchen"
    Rv.: PROVIDENTIAE CAESS, camp gate, 2 turrets with dot above, 6 layers, star above, no doors, PTR <crescent> in ex.

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    Please share your Crispus coins or anything you find relevant :)
     
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  3. Inspector43

    Inspector43 Celebrating 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    Here is a Crispus that I cleaned from a lot of uncleaned. I have some others that I can look up.

    Crispus, AE reduced follis, Trier. AD 322.
    IVL CRISPVS NOB CAES, laureate and cuirassed bust left, holding spear over shoulder and shield on left arm.
    BEATA TRANQVILLITAS, globe on altar inscribed VO-TIS-XX, three stars above.
    Mintmark PTR dot.
    TIC VII Trier 347.

    Number 23 Crispus.jpg
     
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  4. Orange Julius

    Orange Julius Well-Known Member

    How about a CRISPO?! …and some others!
    CrispusRIC116.jpg
    Crispus, AE Follis, Lyons.
    D N CRISPO NOB CAES, Laureate head right
    VIRTVS EXERCIT, Two captives seated on each side of a standard inscribed VOT XX. C-R across fields, mintmark PLG.
    RIC VII, Lyons 116.
    CrispusRIC130v.jpg
    Crispus AE3. AD 317-326.
    IVL CRISPVS NOB CAES, laureate, cuirassed bust left, holding spear & shield
    VIRTVS EXERCIT, two captives sitting at the base of a standard inscribed VOT X. S in left field, F over HL in right field. Mintmark epsilon SIS star-in-crescent.
    RIC VII Siscia 130 var (officina)
    CrispusTrierRIC347-372.JPG Crispus, Trier
    IVL CRISPVS NOB CAES, Laureate, curiassed bust left,
    spear across right shoulder, shield on left arm.
    BEATA TRANQVILLITAS, Globe on altar inscribed
    VOTIS XX, above, three stars.
    Ref: RIC 347 or 372
    CrispusRIC405.jpg Crispus
    A.D. 323
    18x19mm 2.6gm
    IVL CRISPVS NOB C; laureate, wearing trabea, eagle tipped sceptre in right hand.
    BEATA TRAN-QVILLITAS; globe set on altar inscribed VO/TIS/XX; above, three stars.
    In ex. • STR crescent
    RIC VII Trier 405
    CrispusRomeRICVII-266.JPG
    Crispus
    A.D. 324- 325
    FL IVL CRISPVS NOB CAES; Laureate, draped and cuirassed bust left.
    PROVIDEN-TIAE CAESS; camp gate with two turrets and star between them, two dots above arch and one dot in arch.
    in ex. R Q
    RIC VII Rome 266
    CrispusAquileiaRICVII-99.JPG
    Crispus. AE Follis. Aquileia. 321 AD. CRISPVS-NOB CAES, laureate, draped, cuirassed bust right / CAESARVM NOSTRORVM around VOT X within wreath. Mintmark dot AQS dot.
    RIC VII Aquileia 99.
     
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  5. Curtis

    Curtis Well-Known Member

    Congratulations on your find at ANA! I've always liked the coins of Crispus for some reason but I'm not quite sure why.
    Here's my most recent Crispus:

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    Cripus Silvered AE Follis (19.5mm, 3.14g, 6h) from London, c. 320 CE.
    Obv: CRISPVS NOBIL C. Helmeted cuirassed bust right.
    Rev: VIRTVS EXERCIT. Captives & vexillum, VOT XX. Ex: PLON.
    Ref: RIC 188; Cloke & Toone Plate Coin (C & T 9.02.016);
    Prov: Ex Paul DiMarzio Londinium Collection (CNG e-Auction 516, Lot 631); ex Toone Collection, acq. from Dei Gratia Coins at York Coin Fair, 15 Jan 2010


    A couple others:


    A common type (VICT LAETAE PRINCP PERP), but a rare variant (S on altar, •ΓSIS• in exergue). Unfortunately, as happens with "common rare coins," I'm not sure if anyone cares much about the controls.

    [Edited; see Victor's helpful comment below with more examples and clarification of the altar markings]

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    Crispus AE Follis (3.2g, 20mm), Siscia, 3rd officina, 320 CE.
    Obv: IVL CRISPVS NOB C. Large bust facing right, laureate, draped & cuirassed with a single pellet on shoulder.
    Rev: VICT LAETAE PRINC PERP. Two Victories holding shield inscribed VOT / PR on cippus or altar decorated with an S. Exergue: •ΓSIS•.
    Ref: RIC VII Siscia 87-G (R4; considerable majority appear to be officina A); see also RIC 104-G, RIC 97. See also: SRCV IV 16818; Cohen VII 140.
    Prov: Ex-Ancient & Medieval Coins Canada Auction 2 (9 Nov 2019), Lot 517 (part of 17).
    Notes: Considered rare (R4) with any officina mark by RIC VII. The vast majority of examples are from the first officina (ASIS). The 3rd officina (ΓSIS), however, is extremely rare for this issue. For RIC 87, one example in the ANS collection with "S" altar / exergue •ΓSIS• (1944.100.7721). I couldn't find any in ACSearch or OCRE with IVL CRISPVS NOB C (regardless of legend break) "S" / •ΓSIS•.

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    104 Crispus 1 tr.png

    VAuctions Group Lot 286-211 Crispus AE3 VOT Altar Globe X5.jpg
     
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  6. Bing

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  7. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer



    normal_Siscia_123horseman.jpg

    Crispus
    A.D. 320
    19x20mm 2.6g
    IVL CRISPVS NOB CAES Laureate and cuirassed bust left, spear pointing forward, shield with horseman [leaping over fallen enemy] on left arm.
    VIRTVS EXERCIT Standard inscribed VOT/X with captive seated on ground on either side, in left field S, in right field F over HL.
    in ex. ΓSIS ✶
    RIC VII Siscia 123

    Voetter listed an example with horseman on shield; which RIC footnotes for 123




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    Crispus
    A.D. 320
    19x20mm 2.6g
    IVL CRISPVS NOB CAES; Laureate and cuirassed bust left, spear pointing forward, shield with ✶ on left arm.
    VIRTVS EXERCIT; Standard inscribed VOT/X with captive seated on ground on either side, in left field S, in right field F over HL.
    in ex. [A]SIS ✶
    RIC VII Siscia 123


    Star on shield…slight double strike on obverse with a few issues including obverse legend ending with CAESS.



     
  8. cmezner

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    An impressive gallery of Crispus coins; thank you all for sharing :happy:
     
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  10. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

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    322 AD
    Obv: CRISPVS NOB CAES, bust r.
    Rev: CAESARVM NOSTRORVM around wreath containing VOT X
    Size: 18.95 mm
    Weight: 2.8 grams
     
  11. GinoLR

    GinoLR Well-Known Member

    crispus arles.jpg
    My follis of Crispus, Arles mint. In Arles (I was there last June) the Roman amphitheatre is still in use for bullfights.

    After all, I had perhaps the same view as the guy who struck this coin, when he came there to watch a venatio... Much later, Vincent Van Gogh came too but he was not interested too much in the show or the building, he watched the audience!

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  12. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    a few more

    FireShot Capture 103 - Ae3 Crispus - www.nummus-bible-database.com.jpg

    FireShot Capture 104 - Ae3 Crispus - www.nummus-bible-database.com.jpg

    FireShot Capture 105 - Ae3 Crispus - www.nummus-bible-database.com - Copy.jpg


    There is an I on altar for off. A and B; and an S on altar for off. gamma, delta, and epsilon.
     
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  13. Curtis

    Curtis Well-Known Member

    Oh, thank you much, I'll update my notes! I searched around where I could but never found another clear example. Looks like they may all be different dies as well. Didn't realize the correspondence between altar/officina, that helps me make sense of things.
     
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