Seleucid tetradrachm How do you date this?

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  1. Mike Margolis

    Mike Margolis Well-Known Member

    Griechenland 109-96 v. Chr. Tetradrachme von Seleukeia in Syrien Rs. Blitz auf Thron very fine+Grade: very fine+ | Abbreviations
    Catalog: BMC 17f.
    Material: Silver
    Weight: 14.07 g
    Diameter: 29.00 mm
    Tetradrachme von Seleukeia in Syrien, geprägt 109-96 v. Chr.
    Vs. verschleierte Tychebüste mit Mauerkrone n. rechts
    Rs. Blitz mit Bändern auf Thron
    Erhaltung: sehr schön+ BMC 17f. thunderboltthrone1.jpg
    Is the delta under the throne the date I suppose. Fourth year of the reign?
    Thank you.
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  3. David@PCC

    David@PCC allcoinage.com

    That is not a Seleucid coin, but rather a Seleucid era coin. The difference is OP was minted autonomously not under any ruler. I believe delta is year 13.
     
  4. Mike Margolis

    Mike Margolis Well-Known Member

    OK thank you David. I found another similiar coin on acsearch so I guess they are dated from 109 BCE minus the dated year. If you are right that delta=13 then it is about 96 BCE:
    Greek Silver & Bronze Coins(from acsearch)
    Syria, Seleucis and Pieria, Seleucia, (after 109 B.C.), issued in year 15 = 95-4 B.C., silver tetradrachm, (14.83 g), obv. veiled and turreted bust of Tyche to right, in bead and reel border, rev. thunderbolt, with fillet on cushion on stool, SELEUKEWN / THS IERAS, below KAI / AVTONOMOY, between legs of stool EI (date = 15), (S.5887, Cohen DCA 697, cf.BMC 19 [date listed] for year 13], cf.SNG Fitz. 5960, Lanz 125, [lot 488], only recorded example, HGC 9, 1382). Toned, good very fine, very rare.Ex Noble Numismatics Sale 63 (lot 3611). Leu Numismatik sold a similar condition example of year 13, on 26 February 2022 (lot 1631) for 2400 SFr.
     
  5. David@PCC

    David@PCC allcoinage.com

    I looked at a CNG description which is wrong :bored:
    So I looked it up in a reference and it is year 4, which makes sense. The city was declared free in 109, so that puts the year at 106/105. Sorry for the confusion.
     
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  6. Mike Margolis

    Mike Margolis Well-Known Member

    Goo
    Good to know. Thank you again.
     
  7. GinoLR

    GinoLR Well-Known Member

    How do I date this? I never dated a Tyche, but I'm an open-minded man so why not, after all? I'm just afraid my wife would notice the incense smell on me when I come home at 3 AM.
     
  8. Mike Margolis

    Mike Margolis Well-Known Member

    Hey we have been going steady now for a long while. She is VERY protective.
     
  9. Mike Margolis

    Mike Margolis Well-Known Member

    Received this coin finally from Germany. The silver seems quite debased. From the easy research I did it might be 80% or less silver content. I used the rare earth magnet test. Has anyone else exprienced this with these late era Seleucid coinage?
     
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