Please Help with Greek Translation

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by JoIke, Aug 25, 2022.

  1. JoIke

    JoIke Active Member

    Hi everyone,

    Sorry to bother you all. I was hoping if someone here can please help me translate the Greek script on what appears to be a small (1+ inch) copper alloy plaquette(?)

    I don't have the item in hand as of yet, so this is the best image I have so far. The object is mounted within a wooden panel along with four other pieces as seen just below.

    Thank you all so much for your time!

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  3. kevin McGonigal

    kevin McGonigal Well-Known Member

    The transliteration of the letters is Moschion, who was a minor Athenian dramatist of the Third century BC. I assume the other people are also philosophers or dramatists but I can not see writing on the other figures large enough to read. Can you enlarge the others?
     
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  4. JoIke

    JoIke Active Member

    Thank you so much for your help and provided information, most appreciated!

    Yes, I have enlarged the images of the others, but I'm not sure if they'll help? Once I have the item in hand, I can snap close-ups of these inscriptions.

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  5. Topcat7

    Topcat7 Still Learning

    The first one is (literally) MOSC-IWN
     
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  6. JoIke

    JoIke Active Member

    Most appreciated, thank you!
     
  7. JoIke

    JoIke Active Member

    Posted below are close-up images of the inscriptions on the other four pieces, can you all please help?

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  8. kevin McGonigal

    kevin McGonigal Well-Known Member

    Looking closely at the third from the bottom is making me think there is something odd about the writing. if I am reading the letters correctly it is rendered as SLAEUROS, except that the letter R is not a Greek letter. Our letter P is the Greek letter (pi) for R (rho). Perhaps the creator of these images just picked up some Greek letters (not really knowing Greek very well) and slipped up on the letter R which, if Greek would have been rendered as P. In other words the inscriptions may be just fantasy writing by someone who knew a bit of Greek. However, it is within the realm of possibility that the inscriptions are written in a local dialect, maybe some form of later Byzantine Greek. What is the provenance of these plaques?
     
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  9. JoIke

    JoIke Active Member

    There's no real history that I know of other than I purchased them from a vendor who they themselves knew next to nothing about them. I find it interesting that the first piece ID'ed is inscribed correctly, but the others aren't? I also find it interesting that there appears to be not much out there (that I can find any way) on Moschion, let alone plaques such as the ones posted.
     
  10. GinoLR

    GinoLR Well-Known Member

    There is a mixture of Greek and Latin letters, some legends do not make sense at all : XIΛƧ IIV for example. These are perhaps imitations of Greek legends by some late 19th or early 20th c. craftsman who could not read Greek.
     
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