Guess the grade - 1890-S Morgan - ANA show grading (NGC 2 of 2)

Here is the second of my NGC show grading coins from the ANA. Some might remember this one too (another of my interesting experiences ). I am using the TrueView photo plus a seller photo but it is now slabbed by NGC.

Please guess the PCGS grade (if you remember, you will have an advantage this time) and the new NGC grade.

 

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@Morgandude11

 

63

 

MS64 to MS64. I don't think it changed much.

 

MS-65

 

I think I remember it as a 63. I think it did not upgrade. I think it was graded as 63 by NGC also, due to the cheek marks. I would have gone 64, and close to the * grade.

 

I will not be able to participate in this one as I know the answer. But she sure is a beauty!!

 

PCGS MS-63
NGC MS-63*

 

I hope it made a 64 but I think it’s a MS-63.

 

PCGS-63
NGC-64

 

63 but with toning 64

 

MS63~MS63

 

64/64

 

Last call...

 

Reveal....

another disappointment ....PCGS called it UNC Details Cleaned and NGC called it Unc Details Artificial Toning
....I didn't see any cleaning so I gave it another try at NGC; they might not have seen the cleaning either but they weren't a fan of the color. This is a difficult date to find with strong toning, so it was worth the effort. But this is it for trying this coin; too much tuition for me.

 

Also if anyone wants to discuss, what do you think is "better" in terms of details grades? Cleaned or Artificial Toning?

 

I can dip the toning.

 

In general that is true.
I wouldn’t try it on this coin.

 

64

 

I revealed the grade above but without a picture (which might be a good strategy to keep people guessing since it is easier to scroll past a block of words than a picture).