Attribution help? Pegasus & palm tree

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  1. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    AE, 16.3 mm, 4.00 g. Phoenician? Carthaginian? Attribution? Ballpark value? Thanks in advance.

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  3. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    If it ain't worth a ton (which I expect it isn't), I shall then think of a fun way to give it away, maybe.
     
  4. GinoLR

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  5. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Thanks. Wow. That one hammered for $475, but it is much nicer than mine. Still, it's worth more than I thought, maybe.

    But I notice it says "rare with pegasos right". Mine has the pegasus flying left, so must be more common, eh?
     
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    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

  7. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Yes, that's during the Carthaginian domain of Sicily. Marc's attribution is correct.
     
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  8. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    His is 15 mm/2.66 g, while mine is 16.3 mm/4.00 g. Is that much of a weight variance within the range to be considered the same type?

    It's not a precious metal coin, so I dunno if that matters in this case.
     
  9. marchal steel

    marchal steel Active Member

    I found this online, maybe...? pegasus palm tree.PNG
     
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  10. Silphium Addict

    Silphium Addict Well-Known Member

    @lordmarcovan Everyone is correct. Your coin is an early Siculo-Punic AE. The value of the bronze coins in relation to the contemporary precious metal coinage is uncertain, but may be similar to Sicilian Greek bronze denominations. in the 4th century BC, a variety of bronze coins were produced that were usually minted in Sicily, but circulated throughout the Carthaginian empire. The mint is uncertain, but may have been Entella, like contemporary Siculo-Punic tetradrachms.
    The average weight is ~3 gm, but weights ~4 gm are found and often have a beveled cast flan like yours, sometimes with casting sprues remaining.
    Like several other contemporary Siculo-Punic AEs, there are often ancillary Punic letters or pellets.
    The most common reference for Carthaginian AEs is SNG Cop. These are 106-108. For acsearch examples, type "Pegasus palm 106," etc.
    Here are 2 of mine with the second very similar to yours:
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    AE16, 2.59 gm
    Rev: pellet above, Punic "M" below
    SNG Cop 107v

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    AE 16x17, 4.0 gm
    Rev: 3 pellets in triangle below
    SNG 108
     
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