After 8.5 months It's here!! I am stunned!!

Didn't I say the same thing?

I guess PMG doesn't recognizes these characters as part of the serial number and do not put it on the insert.

 

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PMG does put it on holders...the same as PCGS as an *



The older Large Size notes (the majority of them) the star was an ending symbol.. hope this helps. Forgive me if I do not understand correctly what you are saying.

RickieB

 

Wow. Stunning note! I'd love to see one these babies in person.

 

I feel like there is a big misunderstanding here. In my first post I said 3 things:
1: I asked why PMG do not put star on legal tenders?
2: I stated that PMG does put stars on FRNs (and I gave a link).
3: I asked if it was a substitute note because I new there were many different characters in use at that time.

Your first reply was a recommendation to look at old bills to see the different ending symbols - thank you, but in the part 3 I've already expressed my awareness of these symbols.

In your second reply you said that PMG does put it on holders and gave a picture of a FRN - thank you again but in my part 2 I've already said that in contrast to legal tenders PMG prints star for FRNs and gave a link.

Now I guess it's time for you to undermine part 1 of my post...

 

Steve..

Since I can not access PCGS any longer I can not saywith any certainty, however, PMG has Graded 54 of these in the same grade, 18 in a 65 and 11 in a 66. There is only 1 67 that has been graded, can you imagine owning that one??

I am happy to be 1 0f 54

RickieB

 

This is not a replacement note. Star replacement notes weren't used before 1910 (though they appear in some series dated as early as 1880, because those series were still in production after 1910...).

The question of USN vs. FRN has nothing to do with it--I'm sure the grading services all include the * in the serial numbers of USN star notes (replacement notes).

For whatever reason, it's traditional not to transcribe the non-meaningful serial prefix/suffix characters that appear on many large-size notes. I'm guessing this is probably because many of them don't have obvious keyboard equivalents.

Until a couple months ago, I would've explained that all large-size star (replacement) notes used a hollow-center star, while all large-size notes that had a star as a random serial terminator used a solid star. But, somebody recently discovered a very early 1899 $1 star note with a solid star character, so it appears that at least the first few thousand star replacement notes were serialled with solid stars.

If I remember correctly, aside from the Rainbow series, the only notes to use a star as a meaningless serial terminator are the Coin Notes of 1890 and 1891. None of these series used star replacement notes, so the distinction should be pretty clear....

 

I am not trying to undermine anything, so please do not insinuate it as such.
I do not know how else to tell you that the Large Solid Stars used on the majority of Large Size Notes was an ending character to the Serial Number sequence and is not listed on the holders from TPG's.
I am sorry if you can not accept my answer..that is all I know.

Here is the link that confirms what Numbers said ..please see Question #9
I did this quite a while back.....

http://www.cointalk.com/t45123/


Quoted from Numbers Post.
"Until a couple months ago, I would've explained that all large-size star (replacement) notes used a hollow-center star, while all large-size notes that had a star as a random serial terminator used a solid star. But, somebody recently discovered a very early 1899 $1 star note with a solid star character, so it appears that at least the first few thousand star replacement notes were serialled with solid stars."



Yes indeed, I too saw this in BNR, interesting to say the least!.

RB

 

I believe this is the only large size solid star replacement note!

 

Nice, thanks for the info RickieB! Congrats on the pedigree aswell. Now I have to try and obtain one of your pedigreed ones for my collection.