Do coins rust?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by 51Caveman, Jul 24, 2022.

  1. 51Caveman

    51Caveman Active Member

    I can't remember finding a coin like this. Is this some kind of environmental damage or is something else going on here? I used my coin microscope to get these pics but for some odd reason it just wasn't as good as I can usually get. It appears to be pitted, rusted, or delaminated in spots.Obverse and reverse are affected. Any thoughts from the community?
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  3. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

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    Yes, but coins only rust if they contain iron, as with wartime steel cents.

    Rust is an iron-specific term, and a misnomer for corrosion of elements other than iron. For example, steel rusts because iron content is high, however, other metals oxidize visibly, yet do not rust . . . aluminum, tin, zinc, copper, silver, titanium, zinc, gold, etc.

    I find it difficult to tell from your images whether your coin exhibits copper wash from a mint process, or if it has reacted with something after it left the mint. In any case, because Washington Quarters are copper and nickel, your coin is not rusted.
     
  4. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Also.. Clad quarters contain Cupro-Nickel. The Copper mixed with the Nickel will tone if harshly exposed.
    Or burned with extreme heat.
     
  5. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    It does sort of look to me like I see multiple de-laminated areas where the copper layer may be exposed, making the coin more red in those particular areas.
     
  6. 51Caveman

    51Caveman Active Member

    Yes it was hard to get decent pictures. I tried different angles and lighting but nothing could get a really good, clear pic. Here's a couple more I should have loaded up. Still not great for whatever reason but still.... Kansas Obverse.jpg
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  7. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Yep, that's corrosion. (As @ToughCOINS said, "rust" is specific to iron and its alloys.)

    Nickel is more chemically active than copper, so acids or other corrosive agents can attack it faster. The metal left behind is richer in copper and looks more copper-colored.
     
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  8. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    I'll just question whether it truly is corrosion we're looking at, as opposed to missing flakes of the CUNI sandwich layer . . . I think I see hard edges where that layer is missing. Corrosion would almost certainly have left soft edges because surface tension would pull the solvent upward at those edges, like the meniscus in a cylinder.
     
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  9. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    reminds me of when I was taking zinc cents and putting in muriatic acid with other coins just to see what happens. Of course, the other nickels, dimes, quarters I would just reintroduce to distribution because I didn't want to keep them .. they were icky looking.

    I have a thread in the past here about doing a bunch of them to show the effects.
    It's amazing the total unlimited post mint damage that can occur to distributing coinage whether on purpose or accidental.
     
  10. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    You could be right. But it doesn't look to me like the brown patches are all deep enough to expose the copper core, and I have seen sharp-edged corrosion pits. In fact, it seems to me I see them more often than soft-edged ones. I could be misremembering, though.
     
  11. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    I've seen coins that got zapped with electrical current end up with corrosive looking pits like that. Not saying that's the case here, but maybe it's one possibility.
     
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  12. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    If exposed to the right environment yes they can rust.
     
  13. VistaCruiser69

    VistaCruiser69 Well-Known Member

    That's exactly what it is. Pitted & rusted.
     
  14. 1865King

    1865King Well-Known Member

    The correct term is corrosion. And yes, you're looking at corrosion. Rust is a generic term but the same general idea. Every metal will corrode over time if exposed to the right environment. The quarter in question could have been exposed to salt water either in the ocean or dropped on the street in the winter. I've even pull coins like that out of pool drains (chlorinated pool water).
     
  15. Dynoking

    Dynoking Well-Known Member

    That could be a stain imparted from a piece of rusted steel.
     
  16. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Let’s do it members. Lol.
     
  17. 51Caveman

    51Caveman Active Member

    wow! So much here I really don't know if I have a coin that's worth anything or just a spender!
     
  18. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    Rust is a form of oxidation. It is limited to iron and steel.
    Rust is more damaging because it can flake off and expose new metal.
    Aluminum makes a protective coating that is thin and allows the metal to be seen through it without any color change. It forms instantly.
     
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  19. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I have collected for over 60 years and at times I feel like I don’t know a thing. Keep at it and you will get better as practice makes perfect but that really doesn’t apply to coins. It does help though. :)
     
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