5dollar bill white line

Discussion in 'Paper Money' started by Beedles, Jul 20, 2022.

  1. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Really?

    But wait.. There was no security strip in 2013.
    Or was there?

    I checked and there was.
     
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  3. lettow

    lettow Senior Member

    I agree with this. The security thread has been pulled out through the face of the note.
     
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  4. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Here's something interesting and funny..
    A similar issue on eBay!


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  5. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    So now there are 3 options

    1 - Gutter Fold
    2 - Obstruction
    3 - Altered Note (Post BEP)

    :hungry::hilarious::happy::stop::lock::yack::wideyed::smuggrin:
     
  6. Beedles

    Beedles New Member

    Used microscope to have better detail. What do you think now real?
     

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  7. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    I'm leaning towards altered note. Sorry not an error.
     
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  8. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    wow
    learn something new every day
    thanks for the insight everyone.
     
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  9. ESSF

    ESSF Member

    Hold the note up to the light to see if the security strip is still there.

    If so, you have a legitimate error. Your note has decent collector value.

    If not, somebody pulled / removed the security strip. Your note in this case is worth face value.
     
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  10. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    To me it appears to be a gutter fold error. It’s not a printing error. Nice find.
     
  11. SteveInTampa

    SteveInTampa Always Learning

    My comment above is concerning the series 1950A $5 FRN, and not the OP’s note.
     
  12. Jersey magic man

    Jersey magic man Supporter! Supporter

    Just to show a couple more. Not trying to prove a point.
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  13. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    Okay, with the microscope photos (wish they were posted full image) I'm going with damaged. Someone managed to remove the security strip. I have a five dollar bill, with the same MF prefix, and indeed, it goes over that same area and would obliterate the same graphics. I would say, unfortunately, it is just a damaged note and sending it in and paying for authentication would be a disappointing waste of money.
     
  14. Beedles

    Beedles New Member

    New to bills, what is a security strip or do you have example?
     
  15. element159

    element159 Member

    Get a current $5 note, and hold it up to the light. At the position where the white part is in this note, you should see a thread that says 'USA - 5' repeating. Other denominations (except $1 and $2) will have a similar strip, but at a different position, and labeled with the appropriate denomination. I think the strip glows under UV as well. The strip is embedded into the paper, and it can possibly get ripped out.
     
  16. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    I didn't know singles (or, for that matter, fives) had a security strip. Interesting.
     
  17. element159

    element159 Member

    Singles (I assume you meant $1) do not have the security strip, and I don't think $2 notes do either. But $5 and up do for sure.
     
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  18. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    It is very unlikely that a TPG would make such an error. As paddyman98's is certified. Just my opinion.
     
  19. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    I think along the line, some posters got confused about which note we were talking about. All of my posts are about the OPs note, not @paddyman98 note.
    I did an experiment with trying to remove the security strip from the $5 note I have, and after folding the area back and forth, to loosen the strip, I soaked it over night in water and sure enough, with tweezers, I am able to remove the strip. The folds I made in the strip could easily be confused as a crease on the back of the note, as might be on a true gutter fold.
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    Yes, I wasn't as careful as I would be if I were trying to "counterfeit" a gutter fold, but you can see that it can indeed be done.

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    So, my conclusion is that the OPs note is damaged by someone removing the security strip, and not a gutter fold or obstruction print.
     
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