What Grade would you give this franklin?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by zaneman, Nov 3, 2005.

  1. zaneman

    zaneman Former Moderator

    Please note that the specs are dust, and the green spot on the reverse, isn't actually on the coin.

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  3. B12

    B12 Coin Hoarder

    VF-20. B12
     
  4. zaneman

    zaneman Former Moderator

    I was thinking more along the lines of proof-65+ :confused:
     
  5. rbm86

    rbm86 Coin Hoarder

    Yeah, if it is proof, then PR-65.
     
  6. B12

    B12 Coin Hoarder

    Zaneman the definition of VF-20,at least half of the lower and upper incused lines on the rim of the bell must show.Plus It can't be proof-65 because the hair doesn't even show all the way. B12
     
  7. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    I'd say MS64FBL, I'll bet the coin looks much better than the picture shows.

    Bone
     
  8. walterallen

    walterallen Coin Collector

    Business or Proof?

    My first reaction to your photo was "its a proof", the photo does not do any justice to the coin if so. Just a suggestion, because grading a coin is hard to do via a picture, give us some details about any marks, lines or wear that may not come out in your photo.
     
  9. zaneman

    zaneman Former Moderator

    I scoured this coin with a 10x bausch and lomb loupe, and can't find a single scratch on the coin. All specs seen are due to dust on the scanner. I'm thinking about having it slabbed, but am not sure, as I am terrible at grading.
     
  10. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I'm gonna say PF64 - but I wanna ask you a question Zane. Did you buy the coin individually or did you take it out of a Proof set ? I'm asking because I think I see the remains of a fingerprint on the reverse ( at the bottom ) and I think the coin was wiped in an effort to try and remove fingerprints on both sides.

    But even if I'm wrong - I wouldn't spend the money to have it slabbed. Even if it came back graded as PF65 it is only worth about $30.
     
  11. zaneman

    zaneman Former Moderator

    It's definitely not a fingerprint, I'm pretty sure anyway, as I pulled it out of a proof set, and I haven't touched it, except by the rims, and I had nitrile gloves on.
     
  12. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I believe ya - pics can be tricky. What I'm thinking I'm seeing could even be on the scanner glass.
     
  13. zaneman

    zaneman Former Moderator


    Yes, there are dust underneath the glass, and definitely fingerprints underneath, I find the problem with scanners, is that it's hard to show details with shiny coins. I have some vouchers to get coins graded for free, so I'm just gathering up some stuff to get graded. I have some liberty caps that I think I will get graded instead of franklins.
     
  14. walterallen

    walterallen Coin Collector

    Proofs are My Favorites

    Zaneman

    I collect a lot of proofs from 1964 thru 1950. I have original packaging as well as break sets. I perfer the break outs because I can see the best in the coin. If you come across a "cameo or deep cameo" Franklin Proof that is perfect to your eye, that would be the one to have slabbed/graded. PR65, in my mind is average maybe sub-average for a well kept proof. Food for thought.
     
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