1961 penny.Its also been stamped with nickel print.

I have a 1961 penny. With a magnifying glass you can also see a nickel stamp under the penny stamp. How does a penny get mixed in with the nickels? Is this rare, or just a penny?

 

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I can't at this time, but I will at a later time. The word liberty drops down at an angle. Its a rough looking coin. Any ideas? Thanks for your reply.

 

Ruinz,

Does the lettering and details of the Nickel rise up from the flat fields (surface) of the coin or is it incuse (sunk into the surface of the coin? What about the letting and details of the Penny?


Frank

 

Frank, The words are raised. You can see the word monticello without any magnifying aid.

 

I need to correct myself. You can see the llo of moticello with out the help of magnification. Not the whole word. It is raised. Under magnification you can see all the details of a nickel. A penny stamped with a nickel should be worth at least six cents. LOL. Really, this is all true. I cant figure out how to post a picture or I would. Being double stamped makes the coin look like a mess. Any input or similar experiences would greatly be appreciated. Thanks Ruinz.

 

Here you go....how to post photos....

http://www.cointalk.org/showthread.php?p=66269#post66269

Speedy

 

Its not as bad as it looks. The picture was done with my scanner. I didnt think it would look right. The picture is distorted. I dont have a digital camera when I do get one you will see the real deal. Thanks for trying. You cant even see llo in monticello.

 

Ruinz,

If in fact you have a 1961 Lincoln Cent that has also been struck with the Reverse of a Nickel Die then you have what is called a (6 Cent) "Mule" error. Mule errors are extremely rare, highly sought after and fetch big bucks, especially in Uncirculated condition. Even a decent circulated specimen should bring a fair price!

In your first posting, you stated that you could see the Nickel stamp under the Cent (Penny) stamp. If in fact the coin (Cent Planchet) was first struck with a Nickel Die or Nickel Dies then struck with the Cent Dies, then this may be very significant in the Error World and could increase the value of the coin very significantly. As far as I can remember from all of the articles that I have seen and read, most or all known Mules were struck with their' intended denomination first before being struck with the secondary denomination!

Please try to get some pictures posted of the coin, so that we can determine if you in fact have a Mule or not. Also, if the coin is in fact a Mule, then i am sure that everyone here on the Coin Talk Forum would love to see it!

I hope you really have a 6 Cent Mule and that is one that I noted in my second paragraph! Good luck!


Frank

 

It might be better to make sure it is the real deal before you get a guys hopes up....

Speedy

 

Just giving information and education on such errors! Besides, if the coin is really in that poor of condition, then it wouldn't matter a whole lot if it is a 6 Cent Mule!


Frank

 

Ruinz,
In looking at the image, I have a guess on the possible location of the LLO your talking about, but I'd rather you say first.

Can you describe where you are seeing what your talking about? Meaning something like "The M in monticello is locate over the O in One Cent."

Also, if you can, post a picture of the obverse (front). The gallery accepts larger images than threads, so you may be able to post it there and let us know.

As others have said, even if the coin is at it appears, its condition would greatly reduce its value.

Thanks

 

The picture does the penny no justice I should have waited to show a better one. Im no expert to judge the condition of the penny. I found it in my change. Its not the best looking penny. Could being stamped twice make the condition look worse than it really is? Also ,I've notice pocket change with errors tend to collect more dirt than a good one, is this true? Under a magnifying glass on the back side (reverse)you can see the whole nickel under the penny print Five cents, Monticello ,E Pluribus Unum. Even if the pennys not in that great of condition Im glad I have it. Im going to get a camera so you can all see it. Thanks for all your input good or bad.

 

I get the feeling no one believes me. Even with the crapy picture you can still see the O in monticello right above the left corner of the T in cent. It looks like a G but its a O.

 

I believe you....you have the coin in hand...I don't....I would like to see better photos when you get them!!

Speedy

 

Ruinz,

I don't dispute that the coin is exactly what you say it is! Even if it is in poor condition, it is a great find and a once in a lifetime find! The odds of finding any Mule Error coin, is probably greater than 1 in 500 Billion because they are that rare. I would bet that everyone on the Coin Talk Forum, would love to find a Mule Error coin in any condition, so please don't feel bad because of all of the negative comments.


Frank

 

Frank, I dont feel bad about the negative comments. Negative or positive we all have something to learn from each other. All the negatives in the world cant take such a positive away, or my six cent peice. Thankyou all.