Hi all Super pleased to share that I finally got my Charles-Joanna Reales. I have been collecting age of sail Spanish coins for some time, and have always had a Charles-Joanna coin on the want list (early or late, it didn't matter), but never quite found the right coin, at the right price, at the right time. However, I finally managed to secure one, which I am very pleased with: 4 Reales Mexico City, Mexico Charles-Joanna, "Late Series". Assayer G to right, mintmark M to left (M-G). King's name as CHAROLVS. Nesmith-50f type. 13.57 grams. Description: Well struck on a broad flan with complete legends, an early issue from this assayer with the king's name as CHAROLVS, pillars-side legend ending in a trefoil or flower, which is very rare and only from this assayer, probably from the "Golden Fleece wreck" (ca. 1550). Please feel free to share your Reales or any Spanish coin from the age of sail. Cheers AC
Fantastic coin and in wonderful condition. Congrats. I just have these. Ferdinand & Isabella (1469 - 1504) SPAIN Castile & Leon (Castilla y Leon) AR 2 Reales FERDANDVS : ET : HELISABET : D : Crowned shield of arms breaking inner beaded circle. + : REX : ET REGINA : CAST : LEGIO : ARAGON Bow and arrows within beaded inner circle Granada Mint. 29mm 6.80g. Cayon 2622 Ferdinando I (Don Ferrante). (1458 - 1494 A.D.) ITALY, Napoli (Regno) AR Coronato Third Coinage, Class 2. O: FRDINANDVS D G R SICI IER V, cross potent; annulet and double annulet stops. R: CORONATVS QA LEGITIME CERTA, crowned bust right; annulet and double annulet stops. C to left. Napoli (Naples) mint. Struck 1472-1488 2.59g 25mm CNI XIX 348/347 (obv./rev.); cf. Pannuti-Riccio 16b (for type); MIR 68/16; cf. MEC 14, 981-2 (same)
Thanks for sharing your coins @Mat and @SensibleSal66 Love the cross on the Italian coin Mat. And there's something special about shipwreck coins that have been recovered SensibleSal.
According to Pellicer, the letter G of the assayer (ensayador) stands for Juan Gutierrez, 1544-1548. A real beauty, this 4 reales. I can't recall having seen a better one. It's in such good condition that I wonder why you think it comes from a shipwreck?
Thanks for your kind words, and I agree. It is a truly marvelous coin. I also wondered about the condition and it being from a shipwreck. I included it in the description because that's what Sedwick Coins said and they know a lot more about Spanish colonial coins than I do. But I agree, it seems odd given it's condition and weight.
Spain ARAGON Juana & Carlos 1/2 Real n.d. Zaragoza mint Obv.:cross potent IOANA: ET KAROLV.S: RXS: AR (agonvm): Crowned I & crowned K dividing CA (=Zaragoza), in circle Rev.:TROPEA:REGNVM:ARAGONV (victories of the kingdom of Aragon) Large Maltese cross in legend over Aragon arms (vertical bars) dividing L S (=Luis Sanchez,mm 1505-16,1520,1528) in circle 20 mm 1.34 g Cal. 190. Cayon 3003. CCT.178. Cru.CG.4236d. ARAGON Juana & Carlos Real 1520 Zaragoza mint Obv.:IOANA.ET.KAROLVS:RX ARAGONVM. Maltese cross Crowned Aragon arms (vertical bars) dividing CA (=Zaragoza), in circle Rev.:TROPEA:REGNVM:ARAGONVM (victories of the kingdom of Aragon, the 4 heads in the arms being those of the Moorish kings killed in Pedro I's victory at the battle of Alcoraz in 1096):152 illegible Large Maltese cross over irregular shield with qtrd. arms (4 Moor's heads l.) dividing L S (=Luis Sanchez,mm 1505-16,1520,1528) in circle 25.5 mm 3.30 g CC.3064. CCT.145v (type 80). Hess II,p.41,7v. The politically incorrect arms, sometimes described as the personal arms of the kings of Aragon, became the official arms of the kingdom of Sardinia, controlled by Aragon for centuries. If anyone is not familiar with Queen Juana, it is a sad story. On the death of her mother Isabel in 1504, Juana la Loca (Joanna the Mad) became Queen of Castile, with her husband Philip the Handsome of Flanders who however died in 1506. Juana was forced by her father, Ferdinand of Aragon,to give up her royal power over Castile in Aug. 1507. Ferdinand was named administrator of the kingdom by the Cortes of Castile in 1510, He had had Joanna confined in the Royal Palace in Tordesillas, near Valladolid in Castile, in February 1509. Nevertheless, he left all his kingdoms, including Aragon, to Juana & her son Carlos jointly when he died in 1516. However, Carlos I kept her imprisoned in Tordesillas. She would die there in 1555.
Here's my Charles and Joanna 4 reales, KM 0018, L-Mo. This coin was struck on a narrow, irregular flan, but it is not salvaged, as far as I can tell. This is a coin that I've owned since around 1980. There is some minor doubling on the obverse. 13.8 grams
