What would you grade this?

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  1. BlackberryPie

    BlackberryPie I like pie

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  3. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    How about just Handsome!! :snaphappy::smuggrin:
     
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  4. Omegaraptor

    Omegaraptor Gobrecht/Longacre Enthusiast

    That coin is beaming with luster and the reverse looks virtually mark-free from these pictures. The obverse displays just a bit of roughness but given both the very strong luster and the strong eye appeal I'm inclined to call this one a 66BN.

    Beautiful coin. A Gem UNC is a coin you look at and think "Wow"! It is the type of coin you are hesistant to hold in your bare hands. This coin certainly seems like that to me.
     
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  5. BlackberryPie

    BlackberryPie I like pie

    Thank you for the in-depth grade estimate. I was happy to find it on the ‘bay in a Wayte Raymond album with tons of high grade gems. I’ll post a few more examples in other threads.
     
  6. Omegaraptor

    Omegaraptor Gobrecht/Longacre Enthusiast

    Just so you know I am not an expert, or anything close to one. I am just going by the grading procedures the best I know them, and that is my opinion. I wouldn't send it in to PCGS based on my opinion from a photo.
     
  7. masterswimmer

    masterswimmer A Caretaker, can't take it with me

    The reverse is definitely much more eye appealing than the obverse. Very nice original luster.

    There's a hit running east to west on the obv just above Lincoln's ear. Lots of chatter around his shoulder and the field around Liberty.

    I'm seeing it as an eye appealing AU58.

    I'll also add the same disclaimer as @Omegaraptor . I'm just a casual collector. Not an expert grader by any stretch of the imagination. I just calls them as I sees them ;)
     
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  8. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    The coin looks AT"d to me but hard to tell since not in person.Indians and copper cents in general are well known for these colors but so do most AT'd coins have the same appearance also.It has booming luster with no defects in general so most likely a natural 65BN,at least gem.
     
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  9. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Im at MS64 BN due to the light scratch in hair and significant hit behind head on obverse.
     
  10. Dynoking

    Dynoking Well-Known Member

    The scratch on Abe's head, dinks on his shoulder, the hit behind his head and the numerous hits on the reverse lettering and the left (facing) wheat stalk may indicate light circulation vs. bag marks. The coin has luster but the blue, purple colors may be an indication of chemical cleaning. IMO this puts the beauty and eye appeal of the coin in the eyes of the beholder. Grading is best performed with coin in hand. Using the pictures provided I'm at AU 58, details AT.
     
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  11. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    MS-65, R&B. I think that the color is unusual, but original. The luster is too strong to have survived a chemical treatment.

    Having said that, it’s probably not worth enough to have it professionally graded.

    So far as the “numerous hits” citations, you have adjust for the fact that the photo has magnified everything to many times its normal size.
     
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  12. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

    agree with details AT, but unc.
     
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  13. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    I'll wait for the fingerprints to start showing.
     
  14. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

  15. Dynoking

    Dynoking Well-Known Member

    I change my AT to QT.
     
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  16. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    63RB, the toning on the reverse is suspect.
     
  17. Mike Thornton

    Mike Thornton Learning something new everyday.

    I'm more in the 64-65RB range but agree with BadThad, the reverse color causes concern. Also, watch those bare fingers, even on the edges can result in prints reaching the surfaces.
     
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  18. Tamaracian

    Tamaracian 12+ Yr Member--Supporter

    @BlackberryPie IMO, this coin was exposed to chemical treatment--either a dip to brighten it in the past, or substance (e.g. sulfurous compound, or agent that dyes porous surfaces); aside from that, the surface preservation looks to be an equivalent of an MS-63. I would not have it graded, rather I would list it on eBay as a Toned Coin with NO reference to MS (eBay won't allow it anyway unless actually slabbed).
     
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  19. delila1

    delila1 Undermedicated psychiatric patient

    I totally agree with AT
     
  20. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    Question for Mr. Pie: Is that die polish behind Lincoln's head?
    Also, I think that the shoulder looks beat up because that is just the raw planchet surface that wasn't compressed by the die, ie weak strike for which Lincs are notorious. I think the color could be natural from album storage and I think it looks nice.
     
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