1965 Doubled Die Obv/Riv?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Teran, Jun 4, 2022.

  1. Teran

    Teran Active Member

    Hi everyone,
    I am very excited to find this coin, apparently, it is a real doubled die coin to me! but I like to hear your comments please. appreciated it.
     

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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Not a Doubled die variety IMHO

    Looks like Mechanical doubling and Deterioration doubling. Both worthless doubling not related to a true Doubled die variety.
     
  4. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

  5. Teran

    Teran Active Member

    I checked PCGS auction records, and yes, they did not mention doubled die but exactly the same coins sold for:
    Red MS 67 $7638
    Brown MS 62 $633
    Red and Brown MS 67 $690
    And I know that these prices are AUCTION prices but still how mine coin could be worthless with mechanical doubling!
     
  6. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Sorry but your coin is not an MS. It's AU at best.
     
  7. Teran

    Teran Active Member

    How do you know? It is MS 68.
     
  8. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    So?your coin is no where near that condition.Your literally comparing apples vs oranges its heavily circulated.Your coin isn't completely worthless,one cent;)machine doubling has nothing to do with true doubling.Machine doubling differs from true doubled dies because essentially its just a little bounce action within the die when the coin is struck.What you see on the letters etc is more like damage but it is a type of doubling just Nothing near a doubled die.Doubled dies on the other had happen when there's a mistake within the hubing process.After the coin is struck the details are impressed into the coin twice.Then basically its like a mirror,the details are doubled to each other.most of time pretty slightly but it can get pretty intense like the famous 1955.
     
  9. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Not a chance. Please post full images of the coin.
     
  10. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

  11. Teran

    Teran Active Member

    Here are some, if you need more let me know!
     

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  12. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    It’s doubled but it’s NAV or No Added Value Doubling. Very common.
     
  13. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    On Lincolns, die deterioration can be determined to some extent by how close the "L" in Liberty is to the rim as the die spreads mainly from the center outwards to the edge. This spreading typically produces a much lesser level of doubling appearance. whereas in true (Double-Squeeze) years, the height of both will be very close to the same. The single-squeeze modern stuff is "vibrations" or whatever and not my thing( as students say). Some DD are very easy to tell, others are slight for the determination. IMO, Jim
     
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