What do you think of this one

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  1. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    As long as we have been playing with pennies, what do you think of this one. Seller pictures, not mine. Any and all comment welcomed.
     

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  3. fishaddicit

    fishaddicit Senior Member

    IMHO possible butane torch but still a beautiful coin.
     
  4. KennyMac

    KennyMac 82nd Airborne Division

    Was that coin in or near a fire? It kinda looks like a metallurgy change from heat.
    Although I may be talking out out of my 4th point of contact...

    PLF: The 5 Points of Contact: (Parachute Landing Fall).

    1st. Balls of the feet.
    2nd. Calf.
    3rd. Thigh.
    4th. Buttocks.
    5th. Fleshy portion of the push-up muscle.

    Any Questions?
    (Ifyou have any questions, drop down and do push-ups until I get tired of counting.
     
  5. bhp3rd

    bhp3rd Die varieties, Gems

    I like the toning as original but:
    Why is it toned the same way (a little more on rev.) on both sides?
    That's bothering me a little. When I see coins like this that were roll toned or from a bag toned it's generally on one side only.
    Now with that said it could have been in tissue or brown, red, blue envelope for several years.
    I bought a group of coin like this out of Florida once and the old man said they were put in between tisses paper for 60 years. Each coin was so beautiful that it could not be described. Blue, green, purple, rose, and mint state beyound belief. Gave several to close freinds and sold some also. I still have some and they were just out of this world.
    The coins I'm speaking of did not have the blotchyness that this one has though - they were more solid in gradiant of colors across each coin.
    So I suspect this coin a bit but I like the colors as being original at the same time so, 50/50, maybe even 60/40 in favour of being original.
     
  6. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Not sure what you got going round inside your head Dick, usually there's something you have in mind when you make posts like this. But we'll see if I touch on it.

    As to grade - looks like it's in a PCGS slab so my thinking the the toning is NT is probably correct. There are some contact marks on both sides, but minor for the most part and they are well hidden in the toning and other things going on with the coin. Namely, what I believe to be roller marks. I'd call it a 64 primarily because of those marks. Because I think that planchet flaws should deduct from the grade. But I imagine they said 65.

    But those roller marks have me a bit confused. The direction of the marks matches up on both sides. But on the obverse they look to run into each other at a right angle - and that should not be possible.

    On the left, upper third of the coin they appear to run SW to NE. But on the right,lower two thirds they appear to run SE to NW - and run smack into each other in between. Nothing like happens on the reverse.

    So, I'm kinda confused as to how that came to be.

    Is that what you are thinking of ?
     
  7. zekeguzz

    zekeguzz lmc freak

    Here's my opinion:
    This '37' cent may be in a slab but IMO it's been around the corner once too many times:
    It looks harshly cleaned.
    Very worn, speacially the reverse.
    Toning looks artificial.
    I can't figure out what it is doing in a slab in the first place if that's what is holding it.
     
  8. abe

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  9. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"


    What ever the cause, I like the toning especially on the reverse :)
     
  10. SilverSurfer

    SilverSurfer Whack Job

    It looks whizzed, a long, long time ago. All those lines that go from the U in Trust down to Liberty on the lower left give it away. I think the toning might be natural after the surface metal was striped off of it.
     
  11. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

    I like the toning actually.
    But dont like those lines on the surface of the coin.

    I'd say Details with a MS 65 if not altered surfaces.
     
  12. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Doug, that is not specifically what I was looking for, but it is probably part of it. Not sure if it clears or confuses the situation. Same seller's pictures. The same type of crossed hatching appears behind Abe's head.
     

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  13. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

    rlm, this isn't going to be one of those cliff hangers like in the movies where there is no solution is it. I hate those...
    Tell us what's up with the coin please...
    :)
     
  14. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Be patient. It is nothing earth shattering. I at least need Doug to see the coin I posted today first. (i.e. tomorrow morning at the earliest.)
     
  15. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

    No problem...since you have that pistol drawn on me I guess I"ll have to wait! :D
     
  16. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    BTW, that is called a mare's leg. Basically, it is a sawed off shotgun.
     
  17. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    They just made it worse :confused:

    When I first looked at the coin my first impression was that it had been harshly cleaned. But then the slab kind of negated that idea. Couple that thought with the lines on the coin being raised and very course - and the harsh cleaning thought kind of goes out the window.

    It wasn't until later on that I remembered - they have Genuine slabs today (he says as he smacks himself in the head). But there's still those raised lines. I'm still :confused:

    I'm thinking I'd have to see this coin to figure out what is going on.


    Uhhhh - make that a sawed off Winchester :D
     
  18. bhp3rd

    bhp3rd Die varieties, Gems

    Also a "Lupara" italian for "little wolf".
    Everyone should have one but please make it 18.5 inches barrel and 27 inches overall.
     
  19. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    I like the 1937 and won it for <$15 including shipping. I will have to see it in hand before I can really comment much more.

    OK, you got part of it, I wanted to see if anyone could tell me why that 1937 was slabbed genuine (91 - altered color). However, there is nothing on that coin that screams AT any louder to me than that 1934 and that one is slabbed MS-64 RB. Besides, I like the 1937 better. If someone had given me those two coins and told me one was genuine and the other was MS, I would have guessed it was the 1937 was MS. BTW, the 1934 is presently >$20 and still has 5 day yet to go.

    If you really like toned Lincolns, try this one http://cgi.ebay.com/1939-PCGS-PR66R...mQQptZCoins_US_Individual?hash=item563a88a116. It also has 5+ days left to go, but is north of $500 already.
     

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  20. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    I got my 1937. I like it. Nice luster. No major marks. I still don't see why it did not grade. Here are my pix, but I thing the sellers pix are more accurate than mine, but probably a little darker than mine. BTW, if it would grade, I would think it would be a 66 or right at it.
     

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  21. financeman

    financeman Lincoln Cent Connoisseur

    Wow, very interesting. It was a good buy on some good looking coins
     
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