Anyone heard from Doug Smith?

No, he doesn't

 

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Double-secret probation?

 

The thread he is referring to has been deleted. I posted in the same thread and I can't find that post or the thread. Go poof. The creator of the thread might know why it was disappeared, but I bet all he got was the typical "blah blah blah thread has been relocated blah blah blah" notice.

 

Well I like it here and "there" is very nice too ..

A thread has been stopped on that side as well. The hammer can hit from many directions as people try to keep things on the rails... power is power... controlling speech seems to get people off. Its all been a bit of a disaster really.

I do know one thing: no one should talk to @Bing in the manner I have seen "there". I like the poster a lot as well. But when did we lose the respect for experience and of our elders? When did a solid line get drawn where an older person can be called a piece of garbage because he doesn't have the same fervor in a certain belief as a younger person? What crime did he commit? Never mind his years and years of respect shown to all types of people and all levels of collectors? Years of compassion and help and support.. When did this happen and why?

I do not know. When did honest discourse end, when did respect for others opinions end?

But I guess this generation has all of the answers. But to be fair we all thought we were smarter and more with it that our elders.

Maybe they're just like any generation - just the "5G, IoT, Blockchain, DevOps version" and we've been left in the dust.

That's Ok by me .. but at least I respected my Grandparents and wouldn't dream of speaking in that manner to those fine people who paved the way for the rest of us..

 

Best answer that all should heed.

 

Its 99% old people in this thread, why blame young people lol

 

Well you are right .. I did not make my post clear on that point. Late 70s is old to 45 year olds (who in turn are old to 20 year olds).
I don’t know the age of the people who are upset at @Bing but they are younger than him and should show a little respect for the man in my opinion.
And it is only my opinion, whether anyone respects it or not is up to them.

**Also I want to point out that respect for @Bing is really not only about his age.. its about his experience and the years of support and encouragement he has provided to collectors old and especially new. He's helped us all. I remember a post here a year or two ago listing the "Top Ancient Posters with Likes" or some such thing. @Bing was up there of course - but not top... but I would love to see a list for most "likes" given - I know he would be at the top of that list.
When I started I posted some very poor coins (that I was super proud of)... @Bing would like the post and say something like "a very well circulated coin that has passed through many hands, nice pick up!!" There is value in kindness.

 

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At 73 I don't consider myself old, but I will probably still feel that way if I make it to 90

 

73 is the new 50! I'm only 7 years younger than you are, so I insist that 73 isn't old!

 

Yes I agree - and I certainly tried to express my point but perhaps it was clumsy... for that I apologize. @Bing isn't old.... - just experienced!
No matter of age there is a level of respect that should be shown.. and I am not sure that @DonnaML should be piping in at this point... seeing she started that thread over there (and deleted her post here as usual)... and has agitated this rift... But not my problem.

 

I didn't delete any of my posts here. I posted one response by mistake in the wrong place, and immediately replaced it with a dot. Look through this thread, and the one at the other place. I said nothing disrespectful to @Bing, and I'm sure he would confirm that. You consistently lie about me, and have for a long time. Just like @Mat, with his delusional fantasies about how this place was all sweetness and light until I joined two years ago. You two are the ONLY ancients collectors here I've ever had any problem with. I've asked you many times to leave me alone and stop harassing me -- and so have others -- but you can't help yourself. You've repeatedly apologized to others for your behavior here, but never to me. So I knew you'd show up and take a shot at me. You're quite a pair. If there's one benefit to primarily posting at the other place, it's that I won't have to deal with your passive-aggressive nonsense anymore.

 

I always appreciated Bing and many others who comment or help with a question I may have. There is many good & helpful people out there, of all ages. I just turned 43 a few weeks ago and having my neighbors grandson who is 20 call me old yet happy birthday, that was a knife in the back. I don't feel it & thankful I have had zero health ailments.

But my dad warned me the 40's is when things start to break down.

It's just a shame a few have pick at something that wasn't "coin related" and make a whole soap opera out of it.

If it was me, it would have been tossed in the General Talk forum or better yet, support and feedback", because, you know, since it was a forum based/staff issue, not coin related.

 

True.. my apologies. I left it alone for a good while and maybe should have left it that way.

 

Hmm, I've been a member here for 13 years and remember how things were until you arrived. And you yourself mentioned you liked arguing because it's your nature & the "lawyer" in you. And how would you know what it was like before you joined? Did you lurk for about 10 years by chance?

Of course there were a few back and forth moments before your arrival, but since you arrived, they became more frequent.

I joined in 2009 to escape the hell of taking care of my grandmother fulltime with with her Alzheimers and sundowning. She passes and then my mom has double cancer and passes in 2020. Coins have been my calm. And I know other collectors here have/had loved ones going through health issues and come here to escape too.

The last thing any of us dealing with that kind of stuff is arguing.

I don't agree with how the avatar situation was handled & agree it could have been removed by an admin, but it wasn't.

One advantage of being on this board so long is that protesting and arguing with staff here gets you no where. It may suck, but for me it's "oh well". I haven't let it diminish my interest in posting here.

 

Fine @DonnaML .. I am seriously not interested. Your agitating post there started the pile on and that took @Bing into his current position.. you could have stopped it but you let it flame on and reveled in it. That thread had to be stopped by the Admin on THAT site.. there is responsibility (advice RRC#72.. we are keeping count)

 

That was supposed to be a joke. In fact, as I 've also said, there's nothing I like less than arguing on the Internet. Which is why I have always tried to avoid the General Discussion forum. The fact is that it's you and Claudius. Nobody else. You two are the only ancient collectors who've had issues with me and constantly try to pick fights with me. And how do I know what it was like before? People have told me, after reading what what you said. As for Claudius's attempt to put everything on me, people can form their own opinions. Nothing I said had anything to do with why the thread there was closed. I won't be your scapegoat. I suggest you ignore me, here and there. I will certainly do the same.

 

With jokes, there is always a kernel of truth.

And if you dislike it here so much, and left because of the administration, why keep coming back here?

I usually ignored you and rarely visited or replied to your threads. I did it on occasion yes, but not often. I would only cross paths with you because it was YOU who would be in a thread.....arguing with someone or something you didn't agree with!!! And most of the time I just wanted the disagreement to stop. And I become the bad guy?

Like those trolls that come and go. I ignored them when they would start their B.S., why couldn't you?

I also had moved along on this matter, but when I was making my reply with the BOLD letters in this thread, post #113, I saw an alert from the board and hark...it's Donna calling my name, again!. And where does it lead too? Arguing! Lord....you're now playing a victim? .

 

The original issue was there for sure…and valid. (and nothing to do with you).

However you kept poking and making “Admin” comments on that forum.. then agitating here.. to the point were you flamed out a post that had to be shut down on the new forum. Good people sucked into garbage that you keep throwing gasoline on. Great job.. mission accomplished.

 

Could you please continue your arguments in a private message, instead of publicly on the board?