I read the very interesting article located here; http://coinworld.com/Hub0704.asp .Perhaps,this should be reported to both Krause & to the publishers of the Red Book.What do you think? Please let us know your views. Aidan.
Old news. Im sure the '06 versions of both books were in print before this came out but the '07s will give it some mention. Some people don't consider it a pattern, some do. Im not sure how it will get played out, but I've seen 8 coins sell on eBay all in the $2500 to $4500 range.
Dockwalliper,from the photos,the pattern Sacagawea $1 is very different from the normal one.Therefore,it qualifies for listing in the pattern section of Krause. Aidan.
They probably are aware of it, but to be sure you can send an email to michaelt@krause.com. (I have no idea how to contact the Red Book folks. )
I didn't say it wasn't. But if you read some of the articles written on the matter some experts are denying it. Although NGC certified it as a pattern.
Yep thanx Grandma she ripped it of an old cherioes box and thought IT like it. I hate to say for the next 5 years it sat in my junk coins still in its origanal wrapper.
What are you going to do with it Yc? A few grand would purchase a bunch of nice stuff for your collection but keeping the coin (1 of only 5500) would be neat too.
Not that the US Mint is all powerful, but personally, if the Mint writes an article stating they made a change to the design, and why the change was made, I don't see what there is to debate. But that may just be my lack of understanding of what constitutes a "pattern" to numismatisists.
When that sort of coin is first noticed the price and fame are great and then all of that fades as the quantity of them increases or the interest just fades. Some years ago it appears that everyone thought there were very few error coins around and then this lately interest in error coins has inspired people to start really looking for them. At one coin show I go to regularly there is one dealer that has numerous Lincoln Cent errors for sale for only a few dollars due to the massive amount now being found. This is very noticable by just reading books such as Looking Trough Lincolns by coppercoins or checking out the coppercoins website. I've got 6 boxes of error coins all now in 2x2 holders and the value is probably a little over the 2x2 prices. Naturally some errors make the big time, get into the Red Book and the price soars. Example is the 55 DD Lincoln. The 72 DD not quite so much and the 95 DD is just starting to become expensive. However, I've got several DD's from many other dates that are not in the Red Book so they are only worth a few bucks. Check out that coppercoins web site and see that there appears to be error cents almost every year. As to this latest one it will probably end up like the Quarter extra leaf thing that started out in the thousands and is slowly dropping in value. However, I will start looking for one right now. I doubt it will make the Red Book unless several million people call or write in.
Has anyone reported the pattern Sacagawea $1 coin to both Whitman & Krause for listing in their books yet? Aidan.
Aiden: I am sure that Whitman knows about it, I'll ask Ken Bressett if they are going to include it, and I'll let you all know. Frank
Okay, guys, I heard from Ken Bressett, and it is already included in the Guide Book -- on page #220. However, he felt that "Cheerios Dollars" wasn't very numismatic, so they are called: "Boldly Detailed Tail Feathers". Also included are the Goodacre presentation dollars. And that, my friends, is the rest of the story. (To paraphrase Paul Harvery.)
Frank,the Cheerios Dollars ARE very numismatic.Whoever says that they aren't obviously haven't been well-informed.There's a section on the Small Dollars website about the Cheerios Dollars,which,in my view,ARE a pattern coin. Aidan.
I believe he ment that calling them "cheerios dollars" didn't sound numismatic, so instead they called them "boldly detailed tail feathers".
Flying Moose is correct, sorry if I was not clear. Yes they are collectible, and worth some nice money.