Coins with fractional and mixed number denominations

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by The Eidolon, Jul 23, 2019.

  1. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Man, I'm so glad I've only had to deal with decimal currency. It almost makes up for rejecting the metric system.
     
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  3. The Eidolon

    The Eidolon Well-Known Member

    Apparently, one of the advantages of the LSD system was that it could be easily divided a number of different ways. In the early days of the Industrial Revolution when more workers were paid salaries, wages were often paid collectively due to shortages of smaller coins. So having money in pounds which could be split evenly into 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 10, 12 etc could be handy. If they had a remainder, I think they probably went to the pub and drank enough beer until the rest came out even...
     
  4. The Eidolon

    The Eidolon Well-Known Member

    Turkey, 2½ Lira, 1964 (Steel)
    Turkey 2½ Lira 1964.jpg
    I have no recollection whatever of buying this coin. It might have been part of a bulk world coin lot I got years ago or might have been a junk bin pick. Still, anything with a denomination 2½ is worth a post.
     
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  5. Razz

    Razz Critical Thinker

    I also like the fact that the guy is smoking a cigarette! Mine is still in original mint packaging. DSCN3198~4.JPG DSCN3199~4.JPG
     
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  6. coin_nut

    coin_nut Well-Known Member

    Netherlands 2 1/2 cents 1929

    1929 NL 2 1-2 c.jpg
     
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  7. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Transylvania/ Principality
    AV Quarter Dukat 1749
    Alia Julia (Karlsburg) Mint
    Maria Theresia 1740-80 db5f1fbb608c7be1e9bb24908c18caed.jpg
     
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  8. coin_nut

    coin_nut Well-Known Member

    China 1 mace and 4.4 candareens, silver, 1890-1908

    1890-1908 CN 1 m 4.4.jpg
     
  9. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Well, that seemed baffling, until I looked up the units and saw that a candareen was 1/10 of a mace. So, 144, or 12 dozen, right?
     
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  10. The Eidolon

    The Eidolon Well-Known Member

    I think it's a coincidence. China had its own units of measure which were not directly connected to Western ones. With more international trade bringing silver into China, it became useful to have a weight standard compatible with the Spanish dollar. Here's Wikipedia on it:

    "In 1889, the Chinese yuan was introduced at par with the Spanish dollar or Mexican peso or Philippine peso and was subdivided into 10 jiao (角, not given an English name, cf. dime), 100 fen (分, cents), and 1000 wen (文, cash). The yuan was equivalent to 7 mace and 2 candareens (or 0.72 tael) and, for a time, coins were marked as such in English."

    So 1/5 of a Yuan = 20 fen = 1.44 mace = 1 mace 4.4 candareens.

    Most of China used a copper cash system which was not really compatible with international trade, so silver was secondary in importance until quite late in history.
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  11. coin_nut

    coin_nut Well-Known Member

    "Likely 7.2 candareens, as is this silver Chinese coin minted 1890-1908. " A candareen (/kændəˈriːn/; Chinese: 分; pinyin: fēn; Cantonese Yale: fàn; Singapore English usage: hoon) is a traditional measurement of weight in East Asia. It is equal to 10 cash and is 1⁄10 of a mace. It is approximately 378 milligrams."

    My post from Dec 9, 2020 regarding Chinese coinage units.
     
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  12. talerman

    talerman Well-Known Member

    Germany BRUNSWICK-WOLFENBUTTEL Heinrich Julius 1/16 Taler 1606 (with 16 at top of legend on rev.)

    Br-Wolfenbuttel Heinrich Julius One sixteenth Taler 1606 obv 511.jpg Br-Wolfenbuttel Heinrich Julius One sixteenth Taler 1606 rev 514.jpg
     
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  13. Chris B

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  14. coin_nut

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    Great wild man! He pulled the tree up by its roots! Love that handlebar mustache too.
     
  15. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Just saw this...
    https://www.nist.gov/blogs/taking-measure/busting-myths-about-metric-system

    Frustrating search, but I do remember seeing the definition of an inch for the USA is 2.54 cm. Look at any bottle or package in your cupboard and you'll find metric units. BTW, for science (chemistry) students, how many significant figures in the above stated 1 inch = 2.54 cm (the 2.54)
     
  16. Razz

    Razz Critical Thinker

    2 significant digits.
     
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  17. The Eidolon

    The Eidolon Well-Known Member

    Infinite sig figs? Since it's a definition you don't lose any precision by doing conversions from inches to cm or backwards.
    Just like you don't need to adjust sig figs converting from 360 degrees to 2 Pi radians and so on.
     
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  18. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Actually either "infinite" or "doesn't matter" since it is a definition, like @The Eidolon said
     
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  19. The Eidolon

    The Eidolon Well-Known Member

    After a quick search it looks like I haven't posted this one yet:
    Netherlands, 2 1/2 Gulden, 1852, William III
    Netherlands 2 1:2 Gulden 1852 William III.jpg
     
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  20. The Eidolon

    The Eidolon Well-Known Member

    A recent purchase: Luxembourg, 2½ Centimes, 1901
    It has a lovely bronze color in hand when the light hits it, at least to my eye. $1.50.
    Luxembourg 2 1:2 Centimes 1901.jpg
     
  21. coin_nut

    coin_nut Well-Known Member

    I really like that Luxembourg above, everything about it. I just found 3 of these Netherlands 1906 2 1/2 cent pieces rattling around here. 2 of them look kind of woody, A?

    1906 NL 2 1-2 c (2).jpg 1906 NL 2 1-2 c (3).jpg 1906 NL 2 1-2 c.jpg
     
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