2009-D Native American weak edge lettering

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  1. swagge1

    swagge1 Junior Member

    I was placing my Sacagawea/Native American coins into my new Intercept Shield folder the other day and I noticed that I could barely read the "2009-D" edge lettering. It was so faint that I had to get my 10X loupe and tilt it slightly to get the date/MM to show up. It almost looked like it had barely been "scratched" in there, not struck. I will try to get a pic tonight. The only reference I came across during a search was this auction.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/2009-D-Native-S...temQQimsxZ20100308?IMSfp=TL100308152002r32862

    WOW!

    Of course there are no pics showing the edge lettering and no one has bid yet. But has anyone heard of or seen this before?
    Thanks
     
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  3. swagge1

    swagge1 Junior Member

    After doing some searching I have found other auctions similar to the one above with much lesser asking prices. I also have not found any completed auctions for this coin yet either on ebay.
     
  4. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    I'm not sure, but I'll throw it out there anyway. Edge lettering, unless it's totally missing or garbled, doesn't add much to the value of the coin. Seems to me, most of these (pres's & sac's) are lacking in some way with the edge lettering.
     
  5. swagge1

    swagge1 Junior Member

    The E. Pluribus Unum is visible, its just that the 2009-D is hardly visible. I found a friend with a 1:1 macro lens and I'll try to get some pics by Monday afternoon so people can see what I'm talking about.
     
  6. jaceravone

    jaceravone Member

    In 2009, PCGS had designated 3 varieties for the SAC. Weak Edge, Partial Edge and No Edge. Weak Edges are the most common from Philly and will run anywhere from $40-100 depending on whether it is position A or B and how high the grade. 2009D weak edges are a bit more scarce and do command a little bit more money. Partial edges are out there, but they are very few as well and tend to command a bit more money as well. I have not seen any no edge SACs for sale.

    Personally, I think this is all BS and that someone convinced someone high up at PCGS to classify these and create a collector hysteria. Of course it is working as you can see that these coins do go for quite a bit of money. Personally, I don't like it, but I do have a registry set and in order to complete that set, I need to collect these.

    Swagge1, first I would determine what the orientation of the edge lettering is on the coin. If you are looking at the obverse of the coin and the edge letter is upside down then that is what they call POS A. Obviously, the opposite applies if the lettering is right side up then it is called POS B. Position matters as typically one is harder to find than the other. Then, remember, a coins value in this particular series is basically determined by the condition of the coin and the scarcity of that grade. A raw coin is going to be much less valuable than a graded coin and once the coin is graded then the higher the grade, the more valuable the coin.

    Hope this helps a bit.
     
  7. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Ya learn something new everyday. Joe, I thought position "A" was with the edge lettering right side up in relation with the obverse...
     
  8. jaceravone

    jaceravone Member

    It would make sense....right!? :headbang:
     
  9. swagge1

    swagge1 Junior Member

    I just looked at it again and it is a 2009-D POS A. I also noticed a faint fingerprint on the reverse. Would acetone and distilled water be able to remove this fingerprint without damaging the surface of the coin? I have access to lab grade acetone and ultra pure water (distilled and deionized). Thanks for the help guys.
     
  10. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    I fear that that "fingy" may be etched in.....2009, been sitting around for awhile. The oils from the mis-handling have had time to set. Still, a quick dip couldn't hurt.....
     
  11. swagge1

    swagge1 Junior Member

    The acetone and distilled water didn't do anything to help the fingerprints. I made a post in "Error Coins" with a few pictures.
     
  12. Sarah3487

    Sarah3487 New Member

    I have the exact same thing
     

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