Quick reference question

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  1. The Meat man

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    One of my favorite coins in my collection is this Tiberius denarius:

    rk den ti 19-734.jpg

    I bought it from Dr Martina Dieterle on her VCoins store. Her description is as follows:

    Tiberius AD 14-37. Denarius (AR; 17-18mm; 3.71g; 12h) Lugdunum AD 16-21. TI CAESAR DIVI - AVGVSTVS Laureate head of Tiberius to right. Rev. PONTIF - MAXIM Female figure seated right, holding long vertical sceptre in right hand and branch in left, on chair with plain legs above double line. Very fine. Corrossion on both sides. Nicely toned.

    BMCRE I p. 125, 34 and pl. 22.22; C. 16; mt 2008-01 p.135 # 2 (this coin illustrated); RIC I2 p. 95, 26.

    From the A.K. coll.

    My question is with the reference: apparently this is a plate coin, but of which reference? BMCRE? What does "C. 16" and "mt 2008-01 p.135 # 2" mean?

    And if anyone has the reference in which this coin is pictured, could you maybe post a photo of the illustration?

    Thanks! :)
     
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  3. DonnaML

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    C. 16 = Cohen. Same numbering system as RSC for Imperial coins.
     
  4. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    BMCRE is Coins of the Roman Empire in the British Museum
     
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  5. The Meat man

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    Thanks @DonnaML & @Victor_Clark !

    Any idea what the "mt . . ." reference is? Or is it part of the BMCRE/Cohen references? The semicolon seems to indicate it's a separate reference work.
     
  6. DonnaML

    DonnaML Well-Known Member

    I'm afraid I have no idea. I suggest writing to Dr. Dieterle and asking her.
     
  7. The Meat man

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    If you are stumped that is not a good sign! :confused:
    I just finished emailing my question to Dr. Dieterle, so hopefully I will soon know the answer. I'll post in this thread if/when I hear back.

    In the meantime if anyone else has anything that might be helpful, feel free to share!
     
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  8. Broucheion

    Broucheion Well-Known Member

    Hi @The Meat man and All,

    Could it be the Jan 2008 Money Trend issue, page 135, coin #2. Money Trend is a German language coin periodical.

    - Broucheion
     
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  9. The Meat man

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    You may be on to something there. I don't know if I can access such an old article though.
     
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  10. DonnaML

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    If Dr. Dieterle cited it, she probably has it and can mail or email a copy of the relevant page to you. She did that for me when her citations for a Roman Alexandrian coin I bought from her included a citation to a German catalog I don't have.
     
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  11. The Meat man

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    Your guess was correct! I heard back from Dr. Dieterle this morning. She confirmed that it was from the January 2008 issue of Money Trend, and she very generously offered to send me a copy. I am looking forward to seeing the illustration.
    Mystery solved!
     
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