I'm going to post another group of quizzes; but first...

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Insider, May 10, 2022.

  1. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening


    Send in the clowns:

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  3. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Still, not of any value. :( It's a shame too.

    However, since you posted this: "At least I know how to buy coins graded by experts, hired by a legitimate grading company, and not a bottom-tiered operation."

    You certainly are not a braggart so perhaps you can instruct the forum about how you go about doing this.
     
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  4. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    I have, many times. You are too busy with your cutesy fonts, insults, and condescension to bother noticing. :)
     
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  5. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    It is a flower that's center is somewhat circular and dome shaped when laid horizontal but naturally being vertical, in relief, and outward facing. A closer examination of this center shows a tightly packed texture being made up of random placed brightly colored stamen with the consistency of thickly piled soft carpet. Radiating out from the back of this center dome are petals in a inconsistent overlapping pattern spread to encompass the entire perimeter. These sixteen petals resemble the shape of a spoon handle with eased edges and two incuse corrugation lines along the center of their entire length giving rigidity to their somewhat delicate shape and fine linen consistency. The length of the petals is approximately three to four times their width and when included with the center give the flower a radius of approximately three times the diameter of it's center.

    Better?
     
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  6. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter


    From Google
     
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  7. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    :rolleyes: Actually, I'm busy getting customer's coins out (fairly graded, inexpensively in a matter of days).

    Thankfully, I still have time to help others on CT while I learn new things from others who take the time to post their useful opinions. It's too bad I cannot say that about every member and had to start a ":stinkyfeet::bucktooth: list."

    If you care to add to the educational side of CT, please provide me and other new members here how to search for the posts you mentioned above in the CT archives OR perhaps a ONE or a few links. I know you can find them a lot easier than the rest of us by looking in your "content." Have you though of sending your "tips" to Coin World or Numismatic News for publication?

    If all this is too much to ask, perhaps you would outline the things you look for with a dollar in a slab. Maybe you could write it as if all of us were in your class. It could begin like this: I pick up a slab with a date I'm looking for and then I...

    I'll bet you'll get a lot of "Best Answers" if you can change your attitude and seek to inspire us with your extensive knowledge rather than lame humor.
     
  8. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Definitely. Others will learn from the detail description. You left out probably the most important thing in the description for authentication and especially for grading.
     
  9. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening


    You are really tiresome, pretentious, and honestly, your posts are contra-educational. People do not learn from your abuse methodology. Sarcasm generates sarcasm. Condescension generates hostility.

    If you want to “educate” the collectors to whom you obviously find inferior to you, just freaking TEACH, and stop the cutesy, immature nasty style. Instead of denigrating your prospective students, give them the information that you feel you possess. Make it gratuitous—don’t make them dance through hoops, with your silly games.
     
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  10. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...


    o_O Let's not make this about me or you... Please, please, pretty please, decide to show a way to fine out where/how all of us here who missed it :bigtears:can learn to do what you posted by writing
    : "At least I know how to buy coins graded by experts, hired by a legitimate grading company, and not a bottom-tiered operation."

    Thanks. :happy:

    PS Just a few hints or bump one of your old instructional posts that you mentioned. I promise not to ask again as I get exasperated at folks who choose not to back up their claims. When you don't respond, I'll figure it must be related to money. I get :greedy: too and don't share stuff. Wait! :facepalm: That's not right, you already posted this stuff for CT members in the past.

    Maybe, you'll see me at the FUN show and I can pick your brain over a drink. Then, with your permission, I can write some of your tips giving you the credit of course.
     
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  11. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    You keep personalizing things. This is supposed to be fun, not who is the better teacher. You want to continue your confrontational style, go ahead. Clearly, you like to pick fights. Anybody who doesn’t worship you as the supreme expert is fair game. Why not just share YOUR expertise gratuitously, with no strings attached. I dare you to just post INFORMATION about coins, and not make it about anybody else. This was supposed to be YOUR teaching thread, not mine. I got involved, purely because of the abuse you were heaping on anybody that did not “see your great revelations.” Now, you are diverting the conversation away from yourself, and putting the monkey on everybody else’s back but your own. It was your thread, not mine, or anybody else’s. Stop diverting responsibility.
     
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  12. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    Smell?
     
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  13. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Morgandude11, posted: "You keep personalizing things."

    [Nothing personal at all. I thought I knew who you are but for some reason your CT bio is private so I can't confirm it. That's not important now. You made a statement that if true, would be EXTREMLY helpful for ALL of us to learn. Please teach us what you look for when grading slabbed dollars. You could start a new discussion.]

    "This is supposed to be fun,..."

    [CT is fun for me except when I need to reply to nonsense, how folks feel about me, and just today, a completely fictional post about me being angry, name-calling and fighting! It seems that Blood Moon last night has aversely affected a lot of folks today.]

    "...and not who is the better teacher."

    [What? Are you a teacher?]

    "
    You want to continue your confrontational style, go ahead. Clearly, you like to pick fights. Anybody who doesn’t worship you as the supreme expert is fair game.'

    [Just the fact that anyone would write such a :wacky: thing casts an unfortunate :blackeye:
    reflection. I learned :bookworm: a very long time ago that I am not "expert" at anything. :( I also learned a lot :jawdrop::banghead::vomit: about the folks considered to be "experts."]

    "Why not just share YOUR expertise gratuitously, with no strings attached. I dare you to just post INFORMATION about coins,..."

    [:sorry:
    I lost my spoon long ago.]

    "...and not make it about anybody else. This was supposed to be YOUR teaching thread, not mine. I got involved, purely because of the abuse you were heaping on anybody that did not “see your great revelations.”

    [Example of the abuse? Not tolerating :bucktooth: clowns?]

    "Now, you are diverting the conversation away from yourself, and putting the monkey on everybody else’s back but your own. It was your thread, not mine, or anybody else’s. Stop diverting responsibility."

    [Let's try this for a diversion BACK TO the subject. Would you care to take a guess (I'll bet you get the answer) at what was missing from Post #44 describing the flower that is one of the most important characteristics when describing a coin?]
     
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  14. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Would anyone :nailbiting: care to take a guess at what was missing from Post #44 describing the flower that is one of the most important characteristics when describing a coin? :p

    Then I :blackeye::bucktooth::sour::grumpy::troll: can move on to a new quiz.
     
  15. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    I'll hazard a guess adding the edges if the petals are smooth along their length but have irregular indentations at the rounded ends.
     
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  16. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    Weight and denomination. I can only guess at the weight as it is virtual in nature, and the denomination if I had to guess value, you might could buy a kiss with it, so it is worth is a kiss if you keep it watered, the flower not the kiss.
     
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  17. Insider

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    Good but the image has been described very well and your post adds to it EXCEPT for one important characteristic. I guess we can categorize your post under SHAPE.


    Another good one. Category: weight.

    This adds more detail but is no longer as important for authentication of coins as it once was. We stopped using a balance except on rare occasions back in the 1980's. The deceptive counterfeits were in tolerance. I still keep a digital scale on the desk for any suspicious foreign coins.

    Morgandude knows the answer and I hope he keeps it to himself and lets another member get the answer.

    HINT: What is missing to describe the flower image so far? ;)
     
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  18. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Shape was already described as being shaped like a spoon handle having the length be 3-4 times the largest width.
     
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  19. Razz

    Razz Critical Thinker

    The name of the type of flower. Daisy. Akin to denomination and or country of a coin.
     
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  20. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

  21. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Guys, this is too easy; yet of extreme importance. That's why it is so difficult. Keep it simple. Looking for one word needed to describe most things. These are both very good answers:

    Let's stay with the flower image. I'm going to pull the answer out of someone. This description is missing one important thing that's often necessary to describe anything. :nailbiting:

    Hommer, answered: "It is a flower [DAISY] that's center is somewhat circular and dome shaped when laid horizontal but naturally being vertical, in relief, and outward facing. A closer examination of this center shows a tightly packed texture being made up of random placed brightly colored stamen with the consistency of thickly piled soft carpet. Radiating out from the back of this center dome are petals in a inconsistent overlapping pattern spread to encompass the entire perimeter. These sixteen petals resemble the shape of a spoon handle with eased edges and two incuse corrugation lines along the center of their entire length giving rigidity to their somewhat delicate shape and fine linen consistency. The length of the petals is approximately three to four times their width and when included with the center give the flower a radius of approximately three times the diameter of it's center.

    :D Answer this evening and you will all :facepalm::banghead::banghead::banghead:.

    PS Hommer has demonstrated a very good eye for detail. Furthermore, and not so common - he can put what he saw into words. That is a lot harder than you would think. That's why in class we ask students to describe in detail what the coin looks like to someone who cannot see it.

    IMO, all learning occurs in steps. Asking students to take :wacky: baby steps is NOT CONDESCENDING! Although, it can be demonstrated that many "Ex-Perts" don't understand that approach to learning.
     
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