Is there a way to get the artificial toners taken down

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by goldrealmoney79, May 15, 2022.

  1. goldrealmoney79

    goldrealmoney79 Active Member

    Is there a way for us to get artificial toners taken down like the counterfeits?
    I see sold auctions like these and my blood gets boiling

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/194842161472?hash=item2d5d7f7140%3Ag%3A%7EDQAAOSwrjliDZy4&LH_Auction=1&nma=true&si=9l2ghWGVFrOdazAv3AcHyBhpYK8%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

    What can we do to get them down before more ppl get ripped off? Economy is hurting and ppl hard earned money getting taken away from them and also ppl getting burned drives them away from numismatics.

    What are possible solutions?
     
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  3. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    You mean so we don't all have to look at them over and over again? Yes, of course there is . . .

    Buy them all . . . Please.
     
  4. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Let the market handle it. People can learn the difference between obvious AT and NT without eBay having to save the day. They can learn from websites, books, or even come on forums to ask. With more regulations, you add the possibility of things going wrong. I've seen plenty of reports of eBay taking down perfectly legitimate listings because other people were mistakenly (or maliciously) reporting them. Also, what standard do you apply to taking something down? Is a coin in a questionable color holder not allowed? What if the same coin was cracked out and then straight graded the next time?
     
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  5. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    You can exclude sellers from eBay searches via the advanced search tool. It's often the same handful that sell the bulk of these AT coins, so you should be able to really cut down on the eyesores.

    https://community.ebay.com/t5/Buyin...ic-sellers-from-search-results/qaq-p/31580667
     
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  6. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat Well-Known Member

    I've been using this feature for years. Just remember to save the search when done adding dirt bags, err sellers names...
     
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  7. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    "There oughta be a law!" is the first resort of many people and it's why we have mountain-high stacks of laws and regulations, many of which are unenforced, enforced only with discretion, or enforced only in the breach. Not to mention that no one knows what the laws are or how to stay in compliance.

    I think the OP answered his own question, though, when he asked if there's a way to ban what he doesn't like. Sure there is, just ban everything. After all, eBay doesn't make a ton of money off coin sales so if coin sales becomes too big a hassle for them, they might just refuse the business and then "Problem solved-Bob's your uncle."

    Otherwise, just continue to educate people where you can, don't buy from known problem vendors, suggest people buy slabbed if they are ignorant, and have faith that the fool is certain to be parted from his money and might learn from that.
     
  8. Inspector43

    Inspector43 Celebrating 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    We can't protect all of the fools from all of the scams.
     
  9. Mojavedave

    Mojavedave Senior Member

    To each his own.
     
  10. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    Looks like they've only got one coin up right now . . . I suppose it could be worse.
     
  11. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    While on the subject of toners, this is not a scarce date, but I just bought this treat today . . . no vibrant, knock yer socks off color, but very attractive pastels nonetheless.


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  12. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    now THAT's an NT coin!
     
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  13. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    And as for the coin in the OP, "caveat emptor."
     
  14. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    Where is the line in the sand? Artificial toning, painted coins, colorized coins and dollar bills?
     
  15. Beardigger

    Beardigger Well-Known Member

    C7D0CD6D-0988-40FF-A717-9FBE6E27535B.jpeg A couple years ago I bought what I believe are artificially toned nickels. I believed that when I bought them, but I thought they were cool and they were not expensive ( less then $5). I don’t regret it for a minute. They are all early 60’s and in great shape. My point is there are buyers for AT coins. I agree that they should be disclosed and priced as such but these are a real conversation starter when I show them, and so far everyone who has seen them loves them.
     
  16. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    In my experience. it is not uncommon for proof Jefferson nickels of the early 60's to naturally tone deep blue and violet hues. I would not assume the toning on your coins to be contrived.
     
    Last edited: May 15, 2022
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  17. Beardigger

    Beardigger Well-Known Member

    I also always assumed them to be AT. No way to ever know for sure though. Either way I like them.
     
  18. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Almost look like sms toners. I’ve seen plenty of legit toning from the paper envelopes they were in. Same with 60s proofs
     
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