NJ Copper...Variety?

Please see my expanded posting below. Thank you.

 

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Theres no photo Differential. And I am not gonna open the attachment.
Post full size photos.

 

Thanks, spirityoda. Today I put up my first two coins. Try as I might, I couldn't get them into the message, I could only attach them as .pdf.

If I might ask, how does one get the image into the body of the posting? I do have some interesting coins I'd like to post, and I'll want to do write-ups on some of them.

I tried by going to Edit and then Paste, but for some reason that didn't work. Maybe I hit a wrong button somewhere.

The Force be with you!

Might anyone know what variety this is? I wish I could have gotten a better coin (the graffiti is glaring), but it got me off to a start. I'm reading the chapter on NJ Colonials in the encyclopedia of colonial coins by Bowers.

I recently joined CCC==their journal and books are wonderful.

Even with a 20x loupe, I can't tell what the date is. All I can figure out is "178."

Thank you for helping a relative newcomer!

 

Try "Upload a File" at the bottom of your post.

 

Thanks, Treashunt. I really do appreciate the help.

 

no problem.

Usually, I save the file to my desk top, them click on up load the file, it usually works.

 

I took a screen shot and changed it to .jpg format.

 

Hey Differential.
Are you on a laptop a phone, or a tablet?
One thing that always works is to click on upload file.
Then search for the right photo click on it and then once it shows on CT. Click full image or it shows only as a thumbnail.
I copy and paste mine.

 

Thanks for these tips. I'm using the camera on the laptop for now. Yes--I think I forgot to click "full image." I'm going to have to try some trial and error to get the colors more natural. Right now it picks up the blue light from the screen. If I cover the screen then I can't see the photo. Will keep trying and will see how they look on the computer.

 

Do you have a newer phone? The phone will give you much better pics. Then send them to your email. Down load the pic to your laptop. Then copy and paste.

 

Thanks for this suggestion! It's an excellent one.

 

New Jerseys are pretty easy to ID, but we need to see clear pictures of both sides. From what I see, it looks like 1786 obverse 23.

 

You can also open file explorer, then drag and drop the image into your post. Then click full image.

 

Thanks for this attribution. I'll work on making better photos.

 

Thanks for this idea. Sometimes it is easier and quicker to drag rather than to open files, etc. Have never used this at all for photos so this will help me in other kinds of work.

 

@differential So many thanks but still no pics. Hope you get it fixed good luck.

 

Here is the reverse. It's not the most appealing coin, due to both the graffiti and the corrosion, but all of these coins are good sources of history.

 

This looks a lot like the Maris 23-P, an R-4 coin. Below is a 23-P sold in a big collection by Stacks-Bowers in 2019. Compare and I think you'll find all the points of commonality. The Stacks coin is die state 2 determined by the die chip above C on the obverse. The OP's coin does not appear to have this die chip which would make it die state 1.

I also compared the OP's coin to the images and descriptions in my book on NJ coppers by Siboni and also to Bower's book on Colonial coins and it all seems to point to 23-P.

 

I don't have an attribution guide but yes looks like 24-P and I'm seeing these same comparison points:

Obverse
N and A in Nova aligned with same parts of horse
Plows are the same
Horses's eye between C and AE

Reverse
Stars line up at same points of shield on both coins
Botton of shield points between 2 dentils
Top of shield points to Far Right of B in Pluribus

Maybe the Sharpness grade would make F-15 (maybe 300. in a details-free coin?) but perhaps the graffiti make it P01 or, is there such a thing a a minus grade?
Got the coin for around $100 so it was my first colonial and it got me interested.
Now I would look for something around VG-8 without corrosion. But we learn, don't we? And problem-free coins are hard to find in this series.

Publius, good sharing!