D over Horizontal D - Lincoln Cent

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  1. Coppertop

    Coppertop Active Member

    So I saw the picture online of the 1961 D over horizontal D Lincoln Cent. And then, I found one! So cool! But then something even more amazing happened after that. I found a 1963 D over horizontal D except the D is upside down with the straight edge facing south! I looked online and could not find even one. Does that mean it is the only one? I will post the pictures next.
     
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  3. Abramthegreat

    Abramthegreat Well-Known Member

    yes, please post pictures :)
     
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  4. Coppertop

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  8. Coppertop

    Coppertop Active Member

    These were taken with my microscope. Trying to use my digital camera for the full coin shots but they are still blurry. Don't have a cell phone. I will try to use the automatic delayed picture for the camera if it has one.
     
  9. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    The following sites have comprehensive listings of RPMs. Look for an EXACT match. If "it's close", you don't have it. Bookmark them for use if you think you found a doubled die

    www.doubleddie.com
    Www.varietyvista.com
     
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  10. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor

    A horizontal mint mark should be the very same size, height and width, as the vertical mint mark, just rotated. I do not see such on these. Yes, some deformation due to hits, but nothing confirming a rotation. Sorry . IMO, Jim
     
  11. Coppertop

    Coppertop Active Member

    The confirmed ones I saw online were not that way. Some of them were very faint under the bold MM. If you look closely at the 1961 D microscope picture you can clearly see a faint D facing to the south. The bottom part of the D is protruding out the left side of the bold D and crossing the center of it. The 1963 D picture has a bolder D with the curve going through the middle of the bold D and the straight line on the D protruding south of the bold D. Thank you for your opinion though.
     
  12. JPD3

    JPD3 Well-Known Member

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  13. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    The mint Only used a limited number of mm punches and I believe only 1 D punch was used in the early 60s (I can't locate the reference, however).

    If you take the Time to learn the die making process, you'll understand why @desertgem told you the mm should be the same size and font. It can't be anything else. He wasn't giving you an opinion, he was telling you facts that he knows from decades of collecting
     
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  14. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    The 63D cent you showed cannot be the same as the FS501 D/D/D
    Others have eluded to the fact that MM were hand punched into the working die until 1989. A coin made with a set of dies for 1961 will not have the same die markers as one made with a set of dies used for 1963.
    One other way to confirm a RPM is the MM positioning.
    Lets use these two RPM's from 1962D
    In the links you will notice the position of the MM in relation to the date.
    RPM-002
    http://varietyvista.com/02b LC RPMs Vol 2/1962DRPM002.htm
    RPM-004
    http://varietyvista.com/02b LC RPMs Vol 2/1962DRPM004.htm
    If you have any other question, we are happy to help.
     
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  15. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    I do not see it either sorry. Do a bit more research good luck.
     
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  16. Coppertop

    Coppertop Active Member

    Now I understand what you are saying. Thank you for your wisdom! I'm new at this.
     
  17. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Sometimes these guys whose only talent is obsessing over and classifying these are seeing things. Another way to put that is, when the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem tends to look like a nail.
     
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  18. Coppertop

    Coppertop Active Member

    I stand corrected, after some more cleaning, it appears that all I have is two RPM's. Clutter was making it appear to be something else. Sorry. Learning. Mon May 09 13-46-33.jpg Mon May 09 13-33-53.jpg
     
  19. l.cutler

    l.cutler Member

    Be careful about cleaning, if you do come across a good one improper cleaning can really hurt the value.
     
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