Big win in Roma E95 Auction, Janiform Dioscuri / Mercury

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  1. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio

    I had a good day watching the Roma E95 auction. I was interested in several lots. I do not remember if others have posted Roma coin wins here. @Harry G posted that he had trouble. I bid "early" on mine and watched the bid increase by a factor of 3, but it stopped a couple of steps below my max bid, whew.
    The RR cast bronze I wanted most arrived in the mail today.
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    Roman Republic, Anonymous Cast As. Rome, circa 280 BC.
    Obv - Janiform head of the Dioscuri; I (mark of value) above
    Rev - Head of Mercury to left, wearing winged petasus; I (mark of value) above.
    290.8 grams
    68 X 67 X 21mm
    12h
    Near Very Fine
    Crawford 14/1
    Grueber BMCRR -
    Syd 8; Syd AG 36; Syd Sale 51, 52 & 53 no photos
    Sear 519
    TV 1 (I think T&V split the eight Haeberlin pics in Table 38 wrong & their a & b are wrong. )
    ICC 25 (I think ICC splits the Haeberlin pics correctly and assigns T38.8 the letter a. T38.8 has Mercury looking left and on the others he is looking right.)
    HN Italy 268
    HGC 1, 254
    RBW 41 is similar, but has a sickle on the reverse (TV36)
    Haeberlin pg 93, Tafel 38: 1 – 7
    86 examples used for data
    9 examples: Not suitable for determining the weight
    320.51 gram average
    BC Italy 1
    From the collection of Z.P., Austria.

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    seller's pic

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    you can see the high relief of this coin, 22 mm thick

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    Haeberlin's table shows 8 coins. I think #8 is different because Mercury is looking right.

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    I need a larger holder. 7 of the 8 coins in this slab holder are wider than the tray slot. Most are thicker than the depth of the slot.
     
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  3. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Wow, that's an impressive hockey puck!

    If an ancient slinger ran out of lead bullets on the battlefield, and there were no rocks handy, he could've used the change in his pocket for ammunition! :p
     
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  4. Nicholas Molinari

    Nicholas Molinari Well-Known Member

    Nicely done! Congratulations!
     
  5. savitale

    savitale Well-Known Member

    Wow! Is that even a coin? Or something more like an ingot? I’m not familiar with those.
     
  6. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Jeezy Pete's! That beauty works as much as my three largest together, and they're hefty fellas themselves:
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    ROMAN REPUBLIC. Anonymous. AE Aes Grave Triens (47mm, 92.37 gms), Rome Mint, ca. 225-217 B.C. VERY FINE.
    Cr-35/3a; TV-53. Obverse: Helmeted head of Minerva left; four pellets (mark of value) below; all set upon raised disk; Reverse: Prow right; four pellets (mark of value) below; all set upon raised disk. A pleasing specimen despite its crudeness, with charming green surfaces. A test cut across Minerva's face is noted for completeness.

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    ROMAN REPUBLIC.
    Anonymous. Circa 215-212 BC.
    Æ Aes Grave As, 41mm, 70.7g, 12h; Post-semilibral series, Rome mint.
    Obv.: Bearded head of Janus on raised disk.
    Rev.: Prow left; I above.
    Ref.: Crawford 41/5a; Sydenham 101.
    Ex- John Anthony JAZ Auction 199 lot #1, E- Eberhard Link Collection. Ex-Münz Zentrum 88, Cologne 1997, lot 353. Peus Nachfl. 322, Frankfurt am Main 1988, lot 42. Kurpfälzische Münzhandlung 19, Mannheim 1980, lot 99. Ex-Giessener Münzhandlung 15, Munich 1979, lot 105

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    SKYTHIA Olbia - Face Proto Money
    437-410 BC
    Obv: facing gorgon's head. Rev: sea eagle flying right. 65.4 mm, 89.7 grams. Poor. Scarce.
    Provenance
    Property of a European collector; acquired in 2007; previously in a Dutch collection formed in the 1980s-1990s.
    Literature Sear 1682. Purchased from Timeline Auctions Feb 2021

    Though, my cake almost weighs at much:
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    BRONZE AGE. Proto Money. "Aes Rude" Style Bronze Cake shaped Ingot (2000-400 BC). 261 g, 6 cm.
    This type of ingots is an intermediate product of prehistoric copper processing in Europe and an early form of currency. It was available both in pure copper and in various mostly natural bronze alloys. The archaeological finds contain both whole cakes in various sizes and pieces.
    Purchased from Numismatik Naumann Feb 2022
     
  7. Heliodromus

    Heliodromus Well-Known Member

    Not my area at all - but I'd still like to have one!

    I think these early coins kind of blur the lines between coin and ingot, and presumably similarly traded based on weight (i.e. metallic value). I wonder how long it took people to start accepting early coins based on "looks good" / standard value as opposed to weighing them? I can't imagine it happened right away.
     
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