I just received this Large cent beauty today!

The obverse is nice but the reverse is smooth. It will still look good in a Whitman Type Album. Forget what its worth. Would you put into your Type set?

 

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I'm afraid 1793 large cents are well beyond the scope of any type set I'm ever likely to collect, especially when the authentication feature I just looked up in the Red Book is missing. (In other words, "I'm not even an early-copper noob yet".)

 

If I were building a 18th century type set, most certainly I would add this coin.

 

Sure, if the price is right. I'd rather get another one in better condition though. JMO

 

Looks good to me, reverse is just a boring wreath anyways. Obverse is where the interest is design wise.

 

This one is altered from a 1794, Head of 1795. Could be wrong on this but from a very quick check of obverse dies I'm thinking S-67.

I would probably prefer an un-altered piece for a type set, but this one is a very interesting piece on its own and definitely worthy of my collection.

Speaking of which... I just acquired a Liberty Cap cent at a very reasonable price - a steal, even. It's a 1796, however. Will post a thread when it arrives.

 

Dang I would add that in any shape Thanks for sharing

 

IF you were not as knowledgeable and had no access to reference books, is there anything in the image that would make this piece suspect?

 

Okay so let's assume I haven't looked at a lot of Liberty Cap Cents before and I have no idea how to attribute Sheldon varieties.

Discoloration in the date area is of concern. It is also, AFAIK, fairly common knowledge that all 1793 Caps have a beaded border, this one does not.

 

wow beyond my pay grade love the expertise in this room awesome and 18 you and potty dollar at 17 are special

 

The different color of the date area (stippled up to shape the numerals) that reflects light differently was my giveaway. The "common knowledge" about the beaded boarder may not be so common.

 

That was the "knowledge" I fished out of the Red Book.

 

I just looked that up. Thanks for teaching me something I never knew until now.

HEY! I think you just got Doug's first like:
https://www.cointalk.com/data/avatars/m/27/27832.jpg?1645980780

 

The date has been altered. Something has also been done to the portrait. Return it if you can.

Barry Murphy

 

It's a details avatar. Altered surface. (Tooled?)

 

Definitely one I would add to my collection...

 

Is everyone here serious?

Or sarcastic?

Or collectors of altered coins?

 

This coin was sent to ICG. Obviously, in hand, it has an altered date. I posted it to illustrate that a coin's color gives us all kinds of clues to both grading and authentication. What did we possibly learn?

1. The color of a coin's surface indicates its originality.
2. 1793 Capped Large cents have beaded boarders.
3. Barry Murphy, an ancient coin authenticator, knows his coppers.
4. Some advanced numismatists collect counterfeit and altered coins.

 

Insider,

I've collected coppers since the early 80's, although I did take a hiatus from the late 90's to 2010ish. I knew Mark Borkhardt when he was a collector, I met Tom Reynolds the first year he was a dealer and I knew Bob Grellman when he was still in the military in Mobile AL. I've been around a long time.

Barry Murphy

 

Most numismatists know your "creds." LOL, I was pulling your chain!