Dog Days

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Carausius, Feb 23, 2021.

  1. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    :) You are never late to the party when you are showing Doggies!
     
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  3. kevin McGonigal

    kevin McGonigal Well-Known Member

    Outstanding write up and coins. I never really paid attention to the canines on my coins. I'll have to take a look and see what I have.
     
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  4. DonnaML

    DonnaML Well-Known Member

    As long as this thread has been revived, I may as well post my own Antestius in it -- a coin with a triply-interesting provenance of famous previous owners:

    Roman Republic, C. Antestius, AR Denarius 146 BCE. Obv. Head of Roma right wearing winged helmet with peaked visor (ornamented with griffin’s head?), pearl necklace, and earring of pellets in form of bunch of grapes, C • ANTESTI upwards behind [partially off flan, ANTE ligate], X [mark of value, 10 asses]* beneath chin / Rev. Dioscuri holding spears, on horseback galloping right; puppy running right below horses’ hooves, with both forefeet raised; in exergue, ROMA; minor flan flaws on reverse. Crawford 219/1e, RSC I Antestia 1, BMCRR I 859, Sear RCV I 95/1 (ill.), Sydenham 411. 19 mm.. 3.76 g., 3 h. Ex. CNG Auction 378, July 13, 2016, Lot 408; ex. RBW [Richard B. Witschonke] Collection; ex. BCD Collection [see old coin ticket], purchased by RBW from BCD March 1985; ex. ASW [Alan S. Walker, currently Dir. of Nomos AG]. **

    Antestius COMBINED 1.jpg

    Contrast increased Old Coin Tickets for C. Antestius denarius (Rev puppy beneath Dioscuri).jpg

    *My only denarius issued before the re-tariffing of that denomination to 16 asses circa 141 BCE.

    ** Crawford states at Vol. I p. 258 that the moneyer “is otherwise unknown,” and suggests that “[t]he moneyer’s cognomen, if the puppy is held to be significant, may perhaps be Catulus,” meaning puppy or wolf cub in Latin. (Emphasis in original.) Grueber suggests a different (and even more speculative) possibility for the significance of the puppy, namely that “[t]he dog was evidently the symbol of the Antestia gens, and consequently the earlier coins, which have that symbol and are without moneyer’s name, may have been issued by a member of this gens.” (See BMCRR p.114 n. 1.) The earlier coins Grueber refers to comprise the amonymous dog series cataloged as BMCRR 486-492 (Crawford 122/1-122/6), dated circa 206-195 BCE -- i.e., 50+ years prior to the issuance of this coin. Without more, positing a family connection to those earlier anonymous coins based solely on the presence of dogs on them would seem rather tenuous, especially given that there do not appear to be any dogs on the later Antestia gens coins, either under the Republic or under Augustus during the period when moneyers’ names were still listed.

    Some of the subtypes or varieties of this issue have the moneyer’s name on the reverse, with the puppy on the obverse behind Roma’s head. According to Grueber (p. 114 n. 1), this kind of varying interchange was an “innovation” that began with this issue.
     
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  5. Carausius

    Carausius Brother, can you spare a sestertius?

    That is very light. Should be near 4 grams. I think shaved/clipped, as you suspected.
     
  6. Andrew McCabe

    Andrew McCabe Well-Known Member

    another Roman Republican bronze with dog. Theres a small hunting dog within the fighting platform on the deck of the galley. Rare type, not in RRC due to there being no examples in known major collections, but now a few are known and a few verified from accurately drawn 19th c line drawings that included all details including the hunting dog PSX_20220425_171758.jpg
     
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