patina buy - 3 new ones

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by nerosmyfavorite68, Apr 23, 2022.

  1. nerosmyfavorite68

    nerosmyfavorite68 Well-Known Member

    These three just arrived from London ancient coins; all three were purchased for their patinas. Mercifully, all three came in flips. I'm currently out of fresh flips.

    First one: Caracalla Sestertius
    It's actually much more attractive in hand and the patina is somewhat similar to my recently posted Gordian Sestertius - somewhere inbetween jade and aqua.

    I also purchased it because it was larger, heavier and rounder than normal Severan Sestertii. This would be a fairly expensive coin were the surfaces smoother.
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    Caracalla (198-217). Æ Sestertius (33mm, 26.64g, 11h). Rome, 213-7. Laureate, draped and cuirassed bust r. R/ Securitas seated r., propping head with hand, holding sceptre; altar before. RIC IV 573a. Green patina, near VF (I agree with the dealer's grade)

    Second, the one I had originally bookmarked, an aqua Gordian III as. I'm accumulating quite a few nicely patinated Gordians.

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    Gordian III (238-244). Æ As (23mm, 8.31g, 12h). Rome, 240-3. Laureate, draped and cuirassed bust r. R/ Sol standing l., raising hand and holding globe. RIC IV 297b. [aqua] Green patina, Good Fine

    Third, I knew this one was a no-hoper, but I wanted to see what was going on. It was only 15 pounds Sterling. Perhaps the obverse was eaten by BD? Although it doesn't look active.

    I also kind of bought it because it reminded me of a 1990s HJB junk box coin that I vividly remember. A Justin? Follis with the reverse being ok and the obv. totally obliterated.

    I also remember that he had a lot of Gordian III rusty Antoninianii. Try as I might, I can't find any rusty Ants on vcoins.

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    Uncertain series, 2nd-1st century BC. Æ Quadrans (30mm, 22.92g). Head of Hercules r.(?) R/ Prow of galley r.; ROMA above, three pellets below. Fine
     
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  3. Carl Wilmont

    Carl Wilmont Well-Known Member

    Love that aqua patina. My favorite is the second one.

    The patina on this one is not uniform, but it has blue-green elements.
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    Cilicia. Hieropolis-Kastabala (circa 200-100 BC)
    Æ (Bronze, 20 mm, 7.25 g)
    Draped, turreted and veiled bust of Tyche right, monogram behind / Eagle standing left, on club.
     
  4. nerosmyfavorite68

    nerosmyfavorite68 Well-Known Member

    Thanks, and I like your coin, too!
     
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  5. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    I like that Caracalla. Great portrait, beefy, and a nice green patina.
     
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  6. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    I don't know what it is about these Gordians and their bluish patination.

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  7. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    G3 had some beautifully patinated (I learned a new word!) coins.
    Gordian III, AE25, Hadrianopolis, Nike.png Gordian III, AE26, Moesia Inferior Nikopolis, Gordian on Horseback.png
     
  8. nerosmyfavorite68

    nerosmyfavorite68 Well-Known Member

    The patina's pretty matte on the Caracalla. I wonder if it's an artificial patina?

    The Gordian's glossy.
     
  9. nerosmyfavorite68

    nerosmyfavorite68 Well-Known Member

    I don't know. It's quite a mystery. I have more blue Gordians than anything else. Perhaps there were a bunch of Gordians in the Balkans. Abrittus? The Goth invasions?
     
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  10. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

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  11. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Unpopular opinion: NOT a fan of those aqua patina. I’ve done lots of cleaning and this color always seems to be powdery and disintegrate easily. I also find it hard to tell the details.

    but, that Caracalla is pretty solid
     
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  12. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    Agree with hotwheelsearl , no favourite of mine eighter.
    Just have one :
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    RR Quadrans;

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  13. ancientone

    ancientone Well-Known Member

    My vision is not exactly the best but I saw your post as Patina Boy!

    This patina may have been installed by two well known dealers. Not being famillar with these I do not remember seeing these colors on a Byzantine.

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  14. nerosmyfavorite68

    nerosmyfavorite68 Well-Known Member

    The Caracalla's the only near aqua patina I have that's remotely powdery (unless one counts the junk box Quadrans). The rest have a malachite (glossy) patina, although one Gordian Balkan provincial AE I have has the same type of hard encrustations this As has.

    Of my whole collection; maybe a half dozen are aqua-blue. It's not a super common patina.
     
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  15. octavius

    octavius Well-Known Member

    Here are several of my "turquoiseish" patinas...

    sestertius of Domitian...

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    RR aes grave triens....

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    RR aes grave quadrans sow/sow...

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  16. nerosmyfavorite68

    nerosmyfavorite68 Well-Known Member

    The IOVI VICTORI Sestertius is one of my favorite Roman types; what a wonderful example! :joyful:
     
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  17. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Here’s one of my blue coins. It’s a lot more blue in hand. Really not sure what type of mineral causes this type of blue. The real dark blue ones could be a type of azurite, but I ain’t no gemologist
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  18. The Meat man

    The Meat man Well-Known Member

    Isn't it? Lovely portrait of The Last of the Flavians.
     
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  19. Orange Julius

    Orange Julius Well-Known Member

    This photo is terrible at showing the true color of this coin but it’s similar to the OP coins and a bright blue/green. I have to agree with @hotwheelsearl statement that this color of patina is often fragile and prone to flaking/chipping/crumbling. But that’s some not all. Great OP coins!
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  20. sky92880

    sky92880 Well-Known Member

    Here a sestersius and a double sestersius from Postumus, with a mixt patina.
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  21. ambr0zie

    ambr0zie Dacian Taraboste

    My favorite similar (in a degree) patina
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