1951-D Wheat error

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  1. PyrotekNX

    PyrotekNX Senior Member

    I found this out of an unsearched lot, It appears to be a struck fragment error.
     

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  3. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Could be wrong, but I'd guess it to be post strike damage. The letters of STATES are still visible in the area in question. If it was a strike through - I doubt they would be.
     
  4. Becky

    Becky Darkslider

    Do a quick scan of the obverse and show us, then we will know for sure. ;)
     
  5. PyrotekNX

    PyrotekNX Senior Member

    Obverse
     

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  6. PyrotekNX

    PyrotekNX Senior Member

    Reverse again.
     

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  7. Becky

    Becky Darkslider

    Yes!! A very nice strike through error. There is no damage on the obverse of the coin that would indicate post mint damage. Thanks for sharing :)
     
  8. lawdogct

    lawdogct Coin Collector

    No damage to the front is increadibly easy to replicate. Using a pair of vice grips, a screw, and a piece of wood. The vice grips would imprint the screw into the revese of the coin, the wood would protect the obverse from damage.

    The answer is in what GD pointed out. If this was a true strike through error, there would be NO way details would appear under the object in question.
     
  9. PyrotekNX

    PyrotekNX Senior Member

    This is not post-mint damage. I believe it's more likely that there was an occluded gas pocket in the planchet which fell out prior to being struck. If this was post-mint damage, the lettering would have been obliterated within the recess, which is not the case here. The lettering in STATES is full but weak.
     
  10. PyrotekNX

    PyrotekNX Senior Member

    Attached is an occluded gas error which is a planchet defect.
     

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  11. lawdogct

    lawdogct Coin Collector


    I've seen coins flattened by trains that still show "details" :)
     
  12. Becky

    Becky Darkslider

    Very interesting....I just tried it ;) It didn't work for me, did I squeeze too hard?

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  13. PyrotekNX

    PyrotekNX Senior Member

    Note that the 'N' in Becky's coin is completely obliterated.
     
  14. PyrotekNX

    PyrotekNX Senior Member

  15. Becky

    Becky Darkslider

    I got my terminology wrong!! I think it should be lamination instead of struck through..... :eek: Lamination errors show the details of the coin underneath the lamination. Sorry about that......here's a pic of my Morgan from 921, you can still see the 1, but very faintly...

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  16. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    It's either a lamination error or a strike-through error (struck through a lamination flake). Only close inspection could discriminate between these two possibilities.
     
  17. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Not true, whether or not details show under a strikethrough depends on the thickness and mallability of the item being struck through. The depth, and there for the thickness of the struck through item, on the coin in question is rather shallow. If this was struck through a flake of metal (a lamination) that had fallen from another planchet it is very believable that the underlying details would still show.

    If you find a clad coin that has had a clad layer fall off after striking, you will find that you can still see the details of the design in the copper core. (although they will be weaker.) It is the same with a thin strikethrough.
     
  18. lawdogct

    lawdogct Coin Collector


    True, and thanks for the added info (always glad to learn more). To me, the indentation looked like the shape of a rounded head screw. If that were the case, aside (I'm guessing) from damaging the die, I'd assume there would be no details beneith it.

    Question to all. Is it me, or does the back of Lincoln's head have straight lines that should not be there? Just curious.
     
  19. PyrotekNX

    PyrotekNX Senior Member

    Those lines appear to be scratches on the coin, it has been circulated after all. They do not line up with the indentation on the other side.
     
  20. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**

    I am almost certain that it is a "Struck Through Lamination" error! I have many of them, some with the lamination piece still attached and some without the lamination piece still attached. If I still had one of the best that I ever found,I would post a picture of it. However, I sold it over 6 months ago! It was Struck Through Lamination on the Reverse and the lamination piece which had long since been dislodged, was about a 1/4 inch wide and extended from rim to rim. The Lettering and Wheat Stalks inside the Strike Through Error, were still strong and highly visible!


    Frank
     
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