Is this an old cleaning on Morgan dollar?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Shru, Apr 16, 2022.

  1. Shru

    Shru New Member

    This does not look like any VAM and if it's old cleaning, I'm surprised that it was slabbed by PCGS. Any thoughts?
     

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  3. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Can’t possibly tell from those photographs.
     
  4. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    Well lit, in focus images of reverse and obverse are required for informed answers to your question.
    Also, all Morgan and Peace dollars are VAM's. It is the study and collation of die marriages and the die life stages.
     
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  5. bradgator2

    bradgator2 Well-Known Member

    Are you referring to the pullback toning?
     
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  6. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . .

    Looks like typical toning around metal flow lines. Many pieces have that "shadow effect" away from the stars.

    Z
     
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  7. Shru

    Shru New Member

    Yesh - That's the one, Never heard of this before.
     
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  8. Shru

    Shru New Member

    It's both under the stars and numbers.
     
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  9. Shru

    Shru New Member

    Added more pictures. I'm referring to the pullback toning on numbers and stars.
     

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  10. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . .


    Awesome info. I didn't know the term for that.

    @Shru , you have a great piece there. No reasons to be concerned that I can see.

    Z
     
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  11. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . .

    I'm not a metallurgist, but did study chemistry in college. I'm thinking the forces of striking change the crystalline structure of the silver on the rim side of the raised elements causing them to tone at a different rate.

    Z
     
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  12. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    No, it looks good.
     
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  13. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    All Morgans are worthy of attention, yours is no exception. Visible toning is good. Thanks for sharing.
     
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  14. TonkawaBill

    TonkawaBill Well-Known Member

    still, nice pics. I would not think it cleaned
     
  15. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    From those pictures, it simply looks toned. Not cleaned. The toning irregularity makes it look like it is multilayered. PCGS got it right—it was not cleaned, straight graded and toned, although I do not find that type of toning an asset. The coin would grade 65 in todays market.
     
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  16. Sidney Osborne

    Sidney Osborne Well-Known Member

    The Meister of Zoid hath spoken...
     
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