1813 Alliance of Three Monarchies

I'm looking for a bit more information on this amazing piece. I'm thinking it's by Lauer, but don't have a reference book that covers this one.

Z

 

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Does the slab label have any kind of reference code?

 

Neat medal. Bronze or Gold?

 

Self slab. No label yet.

I wish I could afford gold. Bought it at brass prices, but I should check.

Z

 

This, perhaps?
Number N# 160881
References Br# 1273, Diakov# 367.1, Slg.Julius# 2698

From Numista (can't post the link for some reason)

 

It is brass. Looks great!

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/exonumia160881.html

 

Awesome. You guys are my gurus.

I'll have to take photos of the Vintage envelope it arrived in. It goes into detail on the battle scene on the obverse but doesn't really help identify the piece.

I'll post that on Monday. It's very interesting.

Z

 

A great piece of history. Fast forward approx. 130 years and no longer an alliance.

 

Typo? As actually would be about 101 years.

 

I was so focused on WWII that I forgot about WW1.

 

Here is the descriptive envelope that it was in.

I like the bit about the French Army and Eagle being in retreat. Almost sounds like designer notes.

Z

 

Executing an Austrian princess was probably not the wisest foreign policy move for the new Republic. Marie Antoinette was the daughter of Maria Theresa, right?

 

I did not know that. Interesting history.

I just happened to pick up a Maria Theresa recently. This one is a restrike AND counterstrike . . . . . . .

Z

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Okay, tell me if I should start getting excited or not . . . .

Visiting the Numista link, it says this medal should weigh in at 7.9g, which is consistent with a typical Lauer brass planchet weight. Lauer brass pieces are usually thin, about the thickness of a dime.

I finally got out my scale and weighed this piece. It weighs in at 13.4g, over 1/3rd of an ounce. It is thicker than a normal Lauer planchet. More the thickness of a quarter. The die signatures and repunched letters are identical to the Numista example. Only the weight is different, significantly different.

With the Numista brass example, the points of wear show definite discoloration / toning. With my piece, the coloration is more consistent from the worn points to the unworn, just like you would see with an AU gold coin.

What is the possibility that this one was struck on gold? Does anyone know if Lauer ever struck gold?

This piece really has some "heft" to it.

Z

 

The wear pattern made me wonder what metal or alloy it is.
Even though Lauer usually did replica pieces, meant for gaming.
The weight was always way off to tell them apart.
You might have to dig into the web to find answers for this one.

 

Any recommendations on where to begin?

Z

 

Call around for an XRF. Jewelry shops, pawn, whatever.

It looks gold, for sure. I hope it is for your sake.

 

This medal comes in various sizes and finishes.It is also found made with a loop. The diameter has a wide range but most examples seem to be 32-33 mm. I think yours has a gilded finish.The weight you determined is closer to the weights on the dozens of examples on asearch.info . I searched Hanau medal.I think it is too low for gold. I wish you luck it’s a nice piece. The same reference numbers seem to be used for all varieties.

 

I searched across a few sites to see if I could find one in gold. I didn't, but I found this in search but the link does not have images of the item. It says this one was silvered bronze. If they exist like this then I wouldn't be surprised to think a few gilded ones are out there.


Here is a link to Noble Numismatics that sold one, but alas, no images of the lot. .
https://www.noble.com.au/auctions/lot/?id=322390

One last silver plated one, here is a translation of the description (originally in German). This one sold for about $85. https://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotv...&Lot=357&Val=27f4435a7447a6ac53f16c8838b2b546

 

I ran across this one too.

https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=lot&sid=490&lot=471

The silver plate example weighs about 12.5g, which is close enough for hand grenades to mine. Alas, probably not gold, but I could run a specific gravity test on it,if I can find that thread.

Z